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Two years and a few months after LoongArch 64-bit "Loong64" was added to Debian Ports, it's now been promoted to being an official architecture for Debian Linux.

LoongArch 64-bit is now an official architecture of Debian and will be part of the next Debian 14 "Forky" release. The announcement came down today that Loong64 is now an official architecture for Debian:

"I am happy to announce that a little more than two years after the initial bootstrap in Debian Ports, loong64 has become an official architecture in Debian and will therefore be part of the upcoming Debian 14 ("forky") release if everything goes along as planned.

So far, we have manually built and imported an initial set of 112 packages with the help of the packages in Debian Ports. This was enough to create an initial chroot and set up the first buildd which is now churning through the build queue. Over night, the currently single buildd instance already built and uploaded 300 new packages.

It is expected that this initial bootstrap will take about a week depending on whether additional buildd instances will be added later the next days which would increase the build throughput."

LoongArch is the CPU architecture developed by Loongson in China and inspired by MIPS and RISC-V. Coincidentally this week I also received word from Loongson of interest in sending over review samples, so hopefully soon there will finally be some LoongArch benchmarks appearing on Phoronix.

Debian 14 "Forky" with official LoongArch support and many other new features should be out in 2027.

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Debian developers now have an official way to publish and test add-on package repositories, as the Debusine project has opened its repository feature in public beta.

The new service, available at debusine.debian.net, allows Debian Developers and Debian Maintainers to create APT-compatible repositories that function similarly to the well-known Ubuntu’s PPAs but are built specifically for the Debian ecosystem.

Debusine itself is a relatively new project within Debian’s infrastructure. It was introduced publicly at DebConf and has been developed to modernize and unify Debian’s internal workflows for package building, testing, and quality assurance. Until now, much of this work has taken place behind the scenes. With the launch of repositories in beta, Debusine is becoming directly usable for day-to-day development tasks.

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Debian 13.2 is out today as the latest maintenance update to this current stable version of Debian GNU/Linux.

Debian 13.2 incorporates dozens of package updates due to various security issues and other general bug fixes. Security fixes in tow for Chromium, 7-Zip, the Linux kernel, Redis, Firefox ESR, Incus, GIMP, LXD, Bind9, cjson, and many other packages.

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Debian Project Leader Andreas Tille announced today that their "FTP Master" team is being disbanded and instead establishing the Debian Archive Operations Team "Archive Team" and DFSG, Licensing and New Packages Team "DFSG Team" in its place.

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I subscribed! I love Debian. Stability for the win, yay!

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Well I decided to upgrade to Debian testing last night on my desktop here, just for fun. It seems fine.

Xfce4-screensaver wasn't in bullseye so I had an old locally compiled version installed, which may have been the cause of some video problems. Replaced with the debian build.

A broken bash completion script I had removed came back and was annoying until I remembered what I'd done.

Old searx install didn't work, neither did latest searxng install script from git. Too many python errors for me, so I gave up and ran the docker container instead. That was the only frustrating part.

Skyrim runs more smoothly and amdgpu hasn't crashed yet. It had been getting bad lately, locking up during video playback sometimes (maybe once a week) in the past month or two. I think perhaps running the newest kernels with the old mesa was a bad combination.

I ran out of disk space on the EFI partition during install, but it recovered no problem.

Other than that no problems so far.

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29 August 2024

Jonathan Carter writes:

As it stands now, bcachefs-tools is impossible to maintain in Debian stable. While my primary concerns when packaging, are for Debian unstable and the next stable release, I also keep in mind people who have to support these packages long after I stopped caring about them (like Freexian who does LTS support for Debian or Canonical who has long-term Ubuntu support, and probably other organisations that I’ve never even heard of yet). And of course, if bcachfs-tools don’t have any usable stable releases, it doesn’t have any LTS releases either, so anyone who needs to support bcachefs-tools long-term has to carry the support burden on their own, and if they bundle it’s dependencies, then those as well.

I don’t have any solution for fixing this. I suppose if I were upstream I might look into the possibility of at least supporting a larger range of recent dependencies (usually easy enough if you don’t hop onto the newest features right away) so that distributions with stable releases only need to concern themselves with providing some minimum recent versions, but even if that could work, the upstream author is 100% against any solution other than vendoring all its dependencies with the utility and insisting that it must only be built using these bundled dependencies. I’ve made 6 uploads for this package so far this year, but still I constantly get complaints that it’s out of date and that it’s ancient. If a piece of software is considered so old that it’s useless by the time it’s been published for two or three months, then there’s no way it can survive even a usual stable release cycle, nevermind any kind of long-term support.

With this in mind ... I decided to remove bcachefs-tools from Debian completely. Although after discussing this with another DD, I was convinced to orphan it instead, which I have now done. I made an upload to experimental so that it’s still available if someone wants to work on it (without having to go through NEW again), it’s been removed from unstable so that it doesn’t migrate to testing, and the ancient (especially by bcachefs-tools standards) versions that are in stable and oldstable will be removed too, since they are very likely to cause damage with any recent kernel versions that support bcachefs.

It seems that this is one more iteration of the conflict between Debian's focus on stability vs the desire to use the latest products, tool, and features.

I'm happy to see that instead of removing bcachefs-tools completely, that the package has been orphaned so it will be easier for someone to pick up maintenance of the package. I'm excited to see bcachefs get closer to becoming a mainstream filesystem, but it will take time to get there as issues like these will have to be worked through for any LTS/stability focused distribution.

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I like how Debian clearly lists all known CVEs

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My sound a mic settings are set manually to lowest volume and off. But each time my session is locked, when I unlock it, the settings are back to what they were initially. Never happened with Debian 11.

Anyone has a clue why this happens and how to fix it?

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This question is a extension of this thread: https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=154837

From my understanding, it seems the only way to install Debian without non-free software is to do it the old fashioned way (debootstrap). Is this true?

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cross-posted from: https://monero.town/post/824123

Implements support for waydroid in vso, this includes creating and deleting a waydroid container, as well as using fdroid repositories to install and search for applications.

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I use Debian VMs for my homelab because they are stable and easy to deploy

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I think #lemmy has been around a few years now. Searching packages.debian.org yields no results for a lemmy client. Anyone know if there are any projects underway to produce a lemmy desktop client (text-based in particular), even outside of the Debian framework?