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This might come out as a bit of a rant, but I just wanted to post it here anyway since it's the only social media I use.

Recently, I've been making some steps to improve my privacy. GrapheneOS, Linux on my PC, open source software, moving away from Google stuff. So, next logical step was for me to switch away from Gmail. I went with Tutanota, since they're based in EU, their mobile app is on F-Droid and doesn't require Google Play Services. So I made an account, switched a bunch of my private account e-mails from Gmail to Tuta, and was basically done. Two days later, I wake up to a "invalid credentials" message. I checked the option to remember my password on my PC, so I thought it was weird. I checked my phone, and it turns out I was logged out of the app too. I tried changing my password with recovery code, thinking something went wrong (though unlikely since I used a password manager), but I got an error on that one too. So I contacted Tutanota, almost a week ago. No response.

I tried looking on various sites to check if people had a similar issue. I found a few reports on Reddit. The moderator of Tuta says to contact the e-mail address that I sent a message to already, but people complained that they haven't gotten a response either. I found out that similar reports were happening for a while now, accounts being flagged for seemingly no reason. I found one post from October, 2024, from a frustrated user. He said he was in the same situation, and when he finally got the reply, Tutanota said they can't do anything. When I found that post, I was really disheartened. I've already went back on a bunch of accounts to @gmail.com account, for safety, but there is still a few that I'm not even able to access because they use e-mail 2fa. Some of them being accounts for various government public services.

So this one gave me a pause on my privacy journey. I never encountered problems like this one before. A service blocking my account without any message or warning. No contact from support. Being locked out of my accounts. I've lost a lot of enthusiasm to replace a few proprietary services that I have left.

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[–] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Try posteo. They at least allow third party clients and they have some cool features.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I wished posteo allowed custom domains... They would be perfect then!

[–] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 1 points 7 hours ago

Their reasoning seems to be because of potential privacy issues: https://posteo.de/en/site/faq

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago

I tried Tudor and proton's free tier, and I couldn't deal with how they can't use a normal email client.

On the other hand, I've been trying to use Thunderbird with my next cloud calendar and it keeps hanging for me on Ubuntu. So maybe trying to use Thunderbird is a recipe for disaster as well. I don't know what to do.