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    [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 110 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

    xkcd TV Problems

    And also

    xkcd Computer Problems

    Btw, downloading a CD (.iso) on the phone to boot it, because your Linux broke while you had no bootable thumbdrive around. Is something a lot of people here did sometime.

    [–] iocase@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    PSA: get a cheap thumb drive and install ventoy. You'll never regret it!

    Plus you can technically still use it to store files if you make a directory in the ventoy dump partition.

    I keep memtest86+, clonezilla, Ubuntu 24.04lts, gparted, and boot-repair on the drive.

    [–] plutopos@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    maybe not ventoy specifically since it's full of binary blobs that are virtually unvettable

    [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    Eh, good enough. Your Linux install also has binary blobs.

    That's a terrible reason to introduce even more.

    [–] iocase@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I've got a binary blob right here πŸ₯΅

    [–] shea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago

    my blob is non binary

    [–] femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago

    Yeah, I need to find a better way. Been trying to setup pxe boot in docker

    Always been partial to this one

    [–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    I never even thought of that - you then plug in your phone as a thumb drive? Makes sense.

    [–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    I mean I'm not sure I could actually boot off of my phone as a USB drive. That would be an interesting concept.

    [–] Chais@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

    Unlikely. The USB protocol requires one master and one or more slaves (or whatever less charged nomenclature you prefer). In all likelihood UEFI will blindly assume to be the master while Android and iOS require negotiation to figure out who's boss and what interface to present.
    Although given UEFI it might be possible to patch that functionality in.

    [–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

    i had this feature when i installed ubports (ubuntu touch) on my phone in 2021.

    much before that in 2013 my phone's stock rom had a 'driver install' mode that presents an iso file in the system partition to the computer as a virtual cdrom, i could swap out that file with a linux iso and it would boot

    [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    The USB protocol and UEFI aren't a problem, but Android/iOS might be. I've booted various PCs from a raspberry pi (USB-OTG), but the last time I tried to boot an iso from my android phone I couldn't get it to work. It's been a while so I can't remember exactly what the issue was.

    [–] glibg10b@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    My guess the issue is that phones don't just show up as simple drives, they rely on MTP support

    [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

    Yeah, that sounds right.

    [–] Chais@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    That's what I was referring to with "which interface to present."

    [–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

    The problem isn't on the PC side, though. It's on the side of the device that has to choose between host or device. The PC is always a host, so special support in UEFI isn't needed.

    [–] __hetz@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

    There's a tool, whose name I forget, which is included in Kali NetHunter to do just that. It does whatever trickery is needed to present the phone/tablet as a bootable thumb drive. It requires root and, to my dismay when I needed it, I never owned a device that was rootable to fully use NetHunter. It could do a lot of other cool stuff via USB too; phone as a Bad USB, Rubber Ducky, automated Windows login bypasses, etc.

    [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    It does, though with an app that exposes the iso.

    Edit: Right, i thought it was EtchDroid. I think it was DriveDroid (with a broken cert)? There's also SimpleBoot now.

    [–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    That looks like a program that is using your phone to write an ISO to a USB using your phone, not using your phone as a bootable source. But, still useful.

    [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

    Edited, thanks.

    [–] Ithral@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago

    Been there, done that

    [–] AppearanceBoring9229@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    Just a couple days ago I needed a microsd to usb adapter. Couldn't find one, so I loaded the files to a memory with fat usb(I don't know what it's called) and usb c connections. Then connected the memory to my phone and on my phone I moved the files to the microsd card.

    Not the same but similar vibes I think.

    It's sad that several phones are removing the memory slot.

    [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

    Fat USB is called USB A. The one you use for printers is USB B. Then there are mini-A, mini-B, micro-A, micro-B and USB 3.0 micro-B which are all different shapes physically. And USB A 3.0 has slightly different contacts from USB A 1.0/2.0

    Anyway, that was when USB nomenclature was still simple. Don't google anything they did past version 3.0, for your own sanity. We're now down to mostly the USB C and A shapes, but USB 3.2 gen 1x1 is the same thing as USB 3.1 gen 1 is the same thing as USB 3.0.

    USB 4 simplified things a bit, but now you can get things like Gen 4 asymmetric 3:1

    What have we done...

    It seems we need a new standard to prevent all this confusion....

    [–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    I had that exact situation but simply went to the library to fix it. Modern phones scare me.