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[–] Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

As a manufacturer/seller of disposable vapes, literally everyone wants refillable tanks.

Obviously the customer does too but we're vertically integrated. We grow, extract, flavor, fill, and sell. Managing the logistics from China sucks and requires a decent amount of overbuying to ensure we have a steady stream. You never know when some orange retard will close up the border to x country that makes your stuff.

I'd love to just have a CoA of the distillate, flavor mixer like a coke machine, and a fill nozzle for the customer to hand to the cashier to fill.

[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

...commodified cannabis is garbage and distillate is hotdog water, though

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 hours ago

Skyrim port for it when?

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Ok here's my billion dollar idea: vapes that already are web servers!

[–] pirat@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Ok here's my trillion dollar idea:

SmartVape CloudBar. A range of premium smart home vaping devices that connect to (and depend on) the cloud so you can smartvape remotely (e.g. in the bed, on the job, or even when travelling).

Vaping, even locally, always works, unless your subscription has expired, there's no internet connection available, or any of the necessary cloud service are down.

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)
[–] onnekas@sopuli.xyz 65 points 14 hours ago (9 children)

Reusing them, even in small experimental projects, underscores a broader sustainability opportunity.

Bigger opportunity would be banning this shit.

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[–] jumjummy@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago

Next up, turning these into AI web scraper bots!

/pleasedon’tdothis

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 21 points 12 hours ago (2 children)
[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You can run Doom on a literal potato

[–] Float@startrek.website 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

But not on a Neo Geo!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f1-7c6WX10

TL;DW - the Neo Geo has a uniquely bad architecture for FPS games making them nearly impossible to get working on the console.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That's being changed, however, as a bunch of determined devs are using raycasting to go around the console's limitations, being heavily optimized to run SNK's arcade titles.

[–] Float@startrek.website 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I hope someone accomplishes it, even if it's single digit framerate.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

He updated the video a few hours ago saying that some genius accomplished that

Disclaimer: I didn't actually watch the video, only saw the thumbnail on my feed

[–] Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 11 hours ago
[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 116 points 20 hours ago (7 children)

"it was actually a PY32F002B, powered by a 24 MHz Arm Cortex M0+ processor. The chip also carried 24KB of flash storage and 3KB of static RAM"

To process a single button.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, where "process" means measuring instantaneous changes in airflow as the user inhales (or doesn't), and regulating a heating coil accordingly by running actual program code - which requires a controller to run it and memory to store it in. I mean when you click "Reply" on this page all it has to do is process one button, but that involves a lot.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

Some of them have games like snake you can play in class on them. I mean that's what I assume its for, any adult would use their phone.

[–] Melobol@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

There were couple series of: full lcd screen, bt connected to smartphone for notifications and a speaker versions. Plus the rechargeable battery and usb c charging port (obviously).
It was selling about 35 bucks.
Forgot the game one: had controller buttons and 3 games: pacman, tetris and a lying shooter inbuilt. With full lcd and speaker. (Thus wasnt bt connected tho) Price was similar.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

Well the PY32F002B (costing a few cents) even though it has a 32-bit (entry level) ARM core @ 24MHz is literally cheaper than older and less powerful microcontrollers.

Granted, if you don't do anything else than react to a push button it's still cheaper to use discrete electronic components than a microcontroller, but given that this device has a LiPo battery (meaning there's battery control involved) and judging by the picture a USB-C connector, there's probably a bit more digital logic in it, by which point a 3 cent microcontroller plus a cheap SMD crystal and some caps is cheaper than using discrete components.

The domain of embedded systems has evolved to the point that it's the best option for almost everything in consumer electronics, mainly because at the lower end there are so many stupidly cheap and easy to use choices were you don't run an OS in it but instead just a single block of single-threaded code directly on the bare metal accessing registers directly.

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

It's crazy to think that this is basically more powerful than the Apollo Guidance Computer that got people onto the moon. It costs 3 cents, and we use it for shit like this and then throw it away. What spectacular waste.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Temperature control, likely something to keep track of how much is left in the device, and I’m betting I’m forgetting something.

I doubt discreet electronics can cut it at that point.

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[–] stardreamer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 51 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Because an existing SoC at scale is cheaper than a custom ASIC.

You see this all the time, custom keyboard running ARM+Linux, SmartNICs using RISC-V cores/FPGAs instead of ASIC accelerators. Even Microsoft refuses to commit to ASICs for network processing in their DCs and use FPGAs instead.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 30 points 19 hours ago (14 children)

A vape is a battery connected to a button connected to a heating coil. You might want a single transistor. You don't need a software platform.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 27 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Sure, if you weren't competing with every other vape out there that has things like variable voltage settings (at least 3), a pre-heat feature, the ability to turn on/off with 5 presses, or to turn off automatically after 5-10 minutes without use, a low battery indicator, a charging indicator, a broken coil indicator...

Hmm, seems like you need a lot more than a battery, heating coil, button, and single transistor.

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[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 29 points 18 hours ago

There is also a battery management system as well.

M0 processors are dirt cheap, especially in bulk.

They probably have a BMS library that takes a few Kb of flash.

The time it would take to make the design cost effective wouldn't be worth it.

Slap a less than a dollar mcu and be done with it.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 15 hours ago

I used to be into vaping and a big mechanical vape fan. I still have all of my old mech vapes! Those were what you’re thinking of—a button, a conducive body, and a coil or two mounted to a post. You pop an 18650 in, no transistor or resistors needed. You adjust your wattage by changing the way you wrap your coils, and your wire gauge. Generally I’d like to run around .2 ohms, which pushes about 18-20 amps out of the 18650s.

These are NOT devices you want in the hands of regular people lawl. I’ve had friends in years past love how my setup was and get similar vapes for themselves. I’ve seen a burned-down backpack (RIP, all of his adderall XR), a table almost catch fire, and burnt carpet. No explosions because I told people “don’t get one of these, but if you’re not going to listen to me, for the love of glob make sure it’s vented.”

Anyway, yeah no way anyone should have these except electronics enthusiasts. Even with locking rings, they can just start firing if the person using it isn’t super careful. Nice batteries rated for 30a pulse are 2USD more than the garbage batteries that love to vent or explode.

You add in a transistor, that’s not gonna do anything. You add in a couple more things for protection and your cost is higher than it would have been by getting one of the chips in OP’s article, and you don’t have a nice interface for adjusting wattage and checking battery level and charging via USB and all that fun shit.

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[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 15 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Its so you can have a spinny animation when you hit the button.

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[–] amelia@feddit.org 225 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (20 children)

This further illustrates how absolutely crazy it is to produce these devices for a single use and then just throw them away, not even making sure they can be recycled properly. It's complete madness. I hope they'll be banned soon, I think the EU is working on it.

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[–] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

But does it run DOOM?

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 34 points 20 hours ago

In my mind, nothing with a circuit board is disposable. Pains me to see it.

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