What’s more high stakes than a complicated cupcake order?
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An order for a weed smoking cow.
Hot cupcake making action like you've never seen it before!
So much for the internet. We somehow managed to turn one of humanity’s greatest achievements into a hateful echo chamber we use for warfare first and then into a blackbox where inefficient AI agents communicate with each other in the most inefficient way so the planet can cook us alive even faster. God forbid just calling up a bakery to order some cupcakes.
Companies will dump billions into AI to fuck everyone over but the transition to clean energy is always too expensive.
its easier to rule world that is in ruins than thriving one. They know they have to live on same planet as us yet still they dont seem to care if its going to shit. While so many rich people are dumb as bricks and dont deserve their wealth at all, there are also many who actually know what they are doing yet still they dont want to seriously work towards stopping the climate change, even though it wouldnt even reduce their wealth by that much in comparison.
So only reasoning i can think of they want to have more complete control over everything, but they cant have it because world is too complicated and healthy. When civilizations start to fall, the rich will still have everything and with that they can start enforcing themselves on everyone.
I dont have anything to base this on, its just my thought on the matter. It just feels like something billionaire would do, they demonstrate every day that they will not be content with anything and will not care about other people's suffering to get it.
Or just sending an email.
I think in some ways Generative AI is very emblematic of the current state of software development. Projects are approached from the outset with the driving question being, "how can we make money materialize out of thin air?" Not, "What kind of problems are we trying to solve?" Or, "Why would someone pay for this?"
The last several projects I've worked on have been solutions in search of a problem. Hyped up products that made executives see dollar signs but didn't actually produce any because they failed to provide any tangible value.
Comment resonates with my experience.
Software project at work recently:
We are going to launch a new offering to improve experience for customers.
Ok, how?
We are going to switch it to cloud model and charge annually instead of perpetual.
Ok, that's for us, what about customer?
We are going to analyze their accounts and present them with suggestions on other of our products and addons they haven't bought yet.
Where is the customer improvement?
We are going to discontinue supporting third party products and focus exclusively on customers that buy only from us.
Ok, but we have support for third party products we don't even compete with?
We are going to exclude those too, to focus on the market that is important.
Ok, but at least you're going to provide equivalent capability as the product you are replacing?
We are going to streamline the experience by offering only the core capabilities and discontinue extraneous features.
Ok, but you think this will expand revenue, so you will afford to explain the service and support team and free up more time for developers to get requirements?
We are in fact going to lay off and offshore all of it, including most of the customer contacts that barely kept the preceding product alive....
Now after a while of this mess they also had like 96% availability with almost all of it unplanned outages, but that's not too bad because they have only like 6 or 7 customers anyways. There's emails running around asking why the product has failed, and the answer seems to be we need to kill more of our successful products to try to push customers into this mess.
Man, remember all the custom cupcake bakers who were clamoring for an AI to take their craft?
Me neither. Billionaires are a scourge upon society.
Is just ordering them, not making them yet
That's quite a bold statement to make since he now has US military contracts. What is he making cupcakes for the Pentagon?
Grok has tje Pentagon contract. Does OpenAI also have one?
Microsoft's AI, which is OpenAI, is approved for Defense Contracts. https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/16/openai-wins-200-million-us-defense-contract.html It even has an ominous project name which was posted to a public site which I cannot seem to recall at the moment.
For anyone wondering what the fuck that title meant:
OpenAI research lead Lisa Fulford told Wired that she used Agent to order "a lot of cupcakes," which took the tool about an hour, because she was very specific about the cupcakes.
"It was easier than me doing it myself," Fulford said, "because I didn't want to do it."
I'm still wondering. Like did it call up a bakery and place an order? Or go online? I know it didn't actually make the cupcakes itself.
But I'm not sure that spending an hour trying to wrangle ChatGPT into getting your cupcakes is any faster or easier than placing the order yourself.
The article also noticeably omits what happened after. Were the cupcakes made, and did they match what she wanted?
Also did baking the cupcakes use more or less energy than ChatGPT used to order them?
I'm guessing it's the AI agent stuff. Which at the moment is literally just automating browsing through a website.
Apparently there will be APIs to do this in the future. Ironically, AI wouldn't even be needed for that to be useful.
The AI willed those cupcakes into existence, why don't you trust them?
It's like the metaverse and NFT, you're not supposed to think about how it works. Instead you just need to believe reality will magically reorganize to make it work.
Okay but that’s not what easier means.
Easier would be to call the bakery or spending 10 minutes browsing their website, asking to cast, and checking out.
I don’t want to spend an hour on tasks that would normally take 10 minutes. My executive dysfunctions already make me good at doing that.
This might be a revolutionary idea, but what if they helped me do that take an hour in 10 minutes?
I’m just putting that idea out there totally for free in case any AI companies want to jump on that opportunity.
I don’t want to spend an hour on tasks that would normally take 10 minutes.
I don't get it, do you think she spent an hour talking to ChatGPT to try and get it to order doughnuts?
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With how terrible Google Search has become, I think I’m on Lisa’s side this time.
unfortunately any ai service is going to make things worse. right now we can discover and choose. with search and browsing dead, ai provider will shove the product giving them the highest cut aka most garbage or snake oil products.
even today targeted advertising for poor people is filled with betting, lottery & poker game. similarly elder people are primarily shown ads of miracle cure for chronic illness and scammy religious crap.
edit: switch to kagi. its paid but well worth it. searchXNG is also a good alternative if you have got time for hosting it urself.
It really is a nightmare brewing. And they will hide behind excuses and keep it all opaque unless they are strongly regulated.
regulated by who ? our senate and congress is filled by pimps who work for pedophiles like epstien and cheer genocider scum murdering children on daily basis. this include the “lesser evil” party. they had 4 years to release the pedo list or even try to slow down the genocide. they are not gonna give a fck about us working 3 jobs just to pay rent and live on prison food.
sad reality is that after a certain threshold in a parasites-host dynamic, there is no other ending other than host dying because parasites has grown too big for it too feed. so unless another deadly parasite like cia or kgb luigi the 1%, the rest 99% are dead.
Kagi is all in on AI. Its the AI slop version of a search ranking algorithm
Kagi has AI tools but they don't shove it down your throat. I don't understand what "all in on AI" means in this context. The company has said that they want to use AI like they use JavaScript, ie they want to use it as a tool but their product should work well without it.
CEO Sam Altman warns that the rollout presents unpredictable risks.
But that doesn't prevent his profit motive from consuming untold amounts of electricity to shove this into your face. They know what they're doing. They know their product is used primarily to generate spam, and secondarily is designed to form addictive faux-relationships with their users.
Burn in hell. Actually, given the direction this is all going, we will all be burning in hell within generations.
And produced with a shit ton of copyright violations, etc. Just about everything is immoral about it.
So instead of working on fixing an existing problem for anybody, they're solving a new problem for nobody. Let them eat cupcakes, I guess.
I spent maybe 90 minutes trying to get ChatGPT to write me a fucking AppleScript or bash to copy all calendar events from a source calendar to a destination. That shit does not work.
for coding you want to use claude
if you don’t want to pay for claude after so many messages what you can do is use mistral to code it up then use claude to proof check the code
tx, will try it some time.
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