That's what they wanted you to believe. They've been selling us "culture" for decades. It's all a form of propaganda.
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The thumbs through the belt loops thing lmao
It doesn't get much cooler than that.
Every time I go to my kid's school, I am amazed at the difference between my day and now.
That time I went, there were kids just in pajamas and slippers. Not just one or two, dozens, and it wasn't some special day.
Then there's the dressier kids in lounge pants and whatever giant tshirt they pulled out of a drawer (or laundry basket) that were obviously their version of pajamas. Shit, one girl had very obviously rolled out of bed, thrown some leggings under her nightgown, slipped into crocs and jumped on the bus.
It's pretty cool tbh. Just no fucks given for meaningless frippery unless the individual kid/family wants it. Most of the kids were relaxed, nobody giving them shit for the way they're dressed, staff not even noticing at all. That's the way it should be imo. Whatever gets the kids in their seats and keeps everyone relatively engaged.
Yeah, there were still plenty of jeans and t-shirt sorts, a few of the button up shirt variants, and a handful of clothes hounds. But nobody was giving anyone shit about the clothes. From what my kid says, that wasn't just the case for the hour or so i was there that day.
We insist on clothes that are weather appropriate and acceptable for an emergency, but beyond that after seeing the norms there, we stopped giving a fuck.
Meangirls feels kinda accurate?
I remember the popular girls often dressed the way Lindsay Lohan did in that movie.
Then again, I graduated shortly before that movie came out, so it's been a while and my memory may have failed me
Graduated in '07 and yeah, all Mean Girls was missing was Happy Bunny and these fucking things:
We had some British software developers visit our group once and the contrast was stark. They wore suits and business dresses and we wore jeans and t-shirts. I mentioned the difference and one said they were expected to look professional. One of my gang said we were expected to write good code.
That might have just been because they were visiting, In my experience with software devs over here (three of my friends in the roles, and me having applied for some) it is more so jeans and t-shirt, at a push business casual, never suits though unless it's a posh function
I am sure that was it, I just remember the exchange as being hilarious.
Never trust an IT guy in full suit and tie.
Went to HS in the late 90s. I didn't "dress up" but I didn't want to look grundge or a homeless person. My classmates used to call me Metro or a yuppie.
Every girl wore sweats, and every guy dressed like a hobo in the 90s.
Looking Metro means you got style
No it means you have to fight Nazis, Commies, and figure out what the fuck the dark ones are doing.
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Metro 2033 is a good game and a great book, same with its sequels. The author is currently on the run from the Russian government if memory serves right since his books have a shit tonne of critique on the Russian government and Russian society.
I feel like Americans would freak out in the most incredible way if they had hs uniforms
I'm currently living in Texas near thr Dallas area and almost all schools here have uniforms and clear plastic backpacks. It's odd to see for someone who never dealt with such things but its the norm here.
We kinda have them, but we freaked out and largely discontinued them.
One of the core tenets of fascism is uniformity. Give trump some time to cook and I'm sure he'll make school uniforms mandatory soon enough.
See what I mean
Yeah, the Americans are smarter than the rest of us on this issue. Good pointing out.
Right, well my point wasn't uniforms good/ uniforms bad it was Americans tend to overreact. Sorry if that didn't come across in my comment, I thought it was pretty clear though.
I feel like anyone would freak out in the most incredible way if they had their freedom of choice and autonomy suddenly stripped away.
Uniforms aren't part of the culture in US public education. There's also conflicting studies on whether uniforms even make a difference so it's not like there's a clear argument for them.
Also, while uniforms aren't standard in public schools there is typically a dress code students are expected to follow.
See what I mean????
I don't. Please explain it.
Wearing a uniform = having your freedom of choice and autonomy taken away.
You're delusional bruh
Uniforms aren't part of the culture in US public education.
Also, while uniforms aren’t standard in public schools there is typically a dress code students are expected to follow.
Please don't engage in a straw man argument. I specifically said "if they had their freedom of choice and autonomy suddenly stripped away".
Uniforms aren't part of the culture for the majority of students in the US. If that switched overnight then yes, they would reasonably "freak out".
Your generalized statement is "delusional". There are plenty of private schools in the US that require uniforms, numerous jobs that require a specific uniform, and pretty much all businesses have a dress code.
So yes, going from a standard where no uniform is required in a school to having to wear one, especially if it was mandated without warning or input from those it affects would constitute "having your freedom of choice and autonomy taken away".
Freedom of choice is the ability to make decisions and take actions based on one's own preferences and desires, without undue external constraints or coercion.
Freedom of autonomy refers to the capacity of an individual to make their own choices and be self-governing, free from external constraints or coercion.
So you're saying kids who go to a school with uniforms have the freedom to choose their clothes?
See how far your delusions of thinking you can wear whatever you want get you by catching a train naked. We all have uniforms. Freedom to choose your clothes is a fucking stupid take on uniform policy. Why don't you use your freedom of movement and touch some grass.
Many do. Mostly Catholics though, and those kids are a little intense. My wife was smoking in the bathroom and dating while I was painting minis
I think 3 of the dozen or so public schools around where I grew up had uniforms (lucky me, I went to one of them, ugh), while every private school (90% of which were some flavor of christian) had them. Most were more along the lines of 'dress code' than uniform though. I'm remembering khaki pants and bland colored polos more so than the blazer/tie/coat thing. It's probably because it's hot as balls on leather in the sun around here, so anything more than that would be killing kids or the AC budget.
I'm American, I had a uniform, and idk, I kinda liked it. Didn't have to think about what to wear in the morning.
I used to think that media isn't influencing my real life worldviews in a significant way. But now that I am older, I realised that media sold us impossible notions that so long as you live within your means, you could have a pretty good lifestyle as a young adult, while also eventually able to save money to buy your own house and raise a family. I kinda got that from Friends. Although now, that ship has sailed. These shows and movies were operating on the zeitgeist at the time during the economic boom in 1990s and 2000s (well the media is scripted as well, so of course there is bending reality). After the late 00's economic crash, as a millennial, we are forced to give up one desire and dreams over the other. We couldn't have it all unlike the older generations.
I feel worse for the younger generations following us. They are going to inherit a world that is literally cooking everyone, in spite the inspiration from Greta Thunberg to global protest against the inaction on climate change when they were kids. How could they feel more optimistic about the future like the boomers and Gen X? No wonder populist far right is gaining traction; the global liberal order failed all of us except for the few elites.
I didn't mean to go on a long serious musing over a post about high school clothings lol. It was a spur of the moment.
My high school look was so extra that if you lived in Seattle 25 years ago just talking about my hair and jacket could dox me.
Becky?
Edit: Oh ... Hi Brad.
No but hi (☞゚ヮ゚)☞
Would the bottom right image be considered overdressed for you? Because that would have been a common sight at my school, at least the type of clothes. Not just the rich kids either. Could be a cultural thing but like this is Southern Germany I'm talking about, not Paris or Milan 😅
American here.
Every single one of those girls would have been sent home for "inappropriate clothing" at my school.
In my experience in American high school (20 or so years ago now) I wouldn't say they're ridiculously overdressed, but certainly kind of an outlier, we might've had a couple girls dress like that on any given day. They'd also probably be violating or at least very close to the limits of my school's dress code with the skirt lengths.
The left one looks about right to me though. Maybe slightly more dressed up than average, but would blend into most crowds well enough. Except for the heels, I wasn't exactly looking at people's shoes but I don't remember anyone ever wearing heels to school unless there was some sort of special event.
In general, I'd say the average high schooler back then wore a t shirt or maybe a sports jersey, and if it was cold maybe some of them wore a flannel shirt sweater of some kind (mostly the girls for sweaters)
A hoodie if it was cold
Jeans, sweatpants, sometimes pajama pants, shorts when it was hot out, cargo pants (mostly the guys) and once in a while some of the girls would mix in a skirt or dress, but not often.
You'd also get a handful of preppier kids with khakis and polo shirts or a button-up, a few goths or artsy types, etc. who might wear something crazy, the one weirdo who wore a suit, etc.
But mostly it was jeans or sweatpants and a t shirt.
I was more of a cargo pants and t shirt guy myself.
I don't pay too much attention to what my local teenagers are doing these days, but from what I've seen of them it looks like they've slipped further towards the sweatpants and pajamas end of the spectrum.
I live in Seattle and those girls look like they are about to go to a club and not school to me. Granted in my area if I, as a man, wear a shirt with buttons on it to the office I feel like I am dressing up.
Is the leftmost one "SO dressed up?" It's just skirts and pants and shirts.
Look at their shoes
In elementary school i thought there would coordinated dances at high-school events.