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[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 125 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

We didn't need a memoir to tell us what a fuck up she was

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 74 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Harris adviser says VP ran 'flawless' campaign

“I would posit she ran a pretty flawless campaign, and she did all the steps that [were] required to be successful,” she added. “And I think -- obviously, we did not win, but I do think we hit all the marks.”

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Nix, Harris’ campaign manager, also attributed Trump’s decision not to participate in any debate following the ABC News presidential debate on Sept. 10 as detrimental to the Harris campaign’s strategy of presenting the choice between Trump and Harris clearly to voters several times.

“I think that was hard for us to then get the attention that we would have liked to,” Nix said.

Well, there you have it. Perfect campaign. No notes. Just wish Trump had been willing to debate, because we all know the problem Harris had was getting her face out there.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] winkly@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

This right here is when she lost me for sure.

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[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 weeks ago

If only our opponent hadn't made a choice detrimental to us!

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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 61 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was never a big fan, but I was passionate about supporting her from the moment Biden stammered through that debate until this moment in her DNC speech: https://youtube.com/shorts/-UQliWnKnqY

This was the moment when she did the heel turn away from all the clever, momentum building moves that assembled a surprisingly left-friendly coalition. Everything after this was punching left and she lost as a result.

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[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago (25 children)

Article was a great read. This part really resonated with me.

It may seem petty to use this incident, but it does illustrate Harris’s expectation that the world should conform to her needs. Towels on the far side of the room? Someone else must fetch them. A slot as the Democrat presidential candidate that party leaders conveniently made sure would be uncontested by anyone else, a massively well-funded campaign that raked in over a billion dollars and the support of celebrities like Oprah and Beyoncé, a popular vice presidential candidate, a huge boost in the polls as soon as she stepped into the campaign… and, yet, somehow, her loss is still anyone’s fault but her own. Why are my towels on the other side of the room? Who will fetch them for me?

It really did feel that way in hindsight. That we all were just supposed to conform to her and not the other way around.

I remember Hacks on Tap talking about how their contacts were frustrated that Harris wasn’t out doing more national television interviews and that she wasn’t really putting herself out there. This feels like another example of the towel in the bathroom.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 weeks ago

So... the Dem strategy was... run an insufferable, stuffy, haughty narcissist to counter a more bombastic, less classy, insufferable narcissist...???

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Imagine not being able to beat Hitler in an election

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Imagine not voting for the black lady because she has to prove herself worthy while a criminal senile pedophile can go on insane demented rants for a year and win by default.

There's a lot of cope happening in America, and everyone is pointing fingers, but the fact is 2/3 of the electorate either voted for fascism or didn't bother to vote against it.

But go ahead and blame everyone and everything other than the fact that American culture is fundamentally rotten and most people either want fascism or at least don't care about whether it happens.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

Well that’s a gross over-simplification. It certainly wasn’t her and the DNC’s long history of clearly ignoring the needs of the people who want to vote for them while regularly reaching for “moderate” votes. It definitely wasn’t her disconnection from Walz while hanging out with Liz Cheney for a significant amount of time.

People don’t see her as any form of significant opposition to the far-right but they do see opposing the DNC as something worth doing and I’ve come around to supporting them there. It is not their fault that the Republicans won, anyoderately sane and intelligent people would have laughed him into oblivion but the US threw tens of millions of people at Trump.

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[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 35 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

What? She was a fantastic candidate! The fact she lost to someone so obviously bad just means she was bad at communicating to dumb voters. This is a widely known and predictable problem with Americans and you can't blame her for that. So you see, she was the best person to not get the job. /s

[–] cashsky@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago

People are missing your /s unfortunately lol

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It is true that she didn’t have enough time to put together a viable platform, but if Biden had dropped out early enough for her to develop a viable campaign and platform, that would have meant a primary, and it’s doubtful she would have won that primary.

Even if she had won that primary, it’s still doubtful that she would have assembled a viable platform and campaign. The political cliques she was aligned with were diametrically opposed to the kind of policies that would have made a viable platform.

A break from neoliberal politics was necessary. But basically all of the institutional pressure for Biden to drop out came from neoliberal diehards who were pissed at him for deviating from that line slightly, the age thing was mainly just an acceptable cover story for the insiders. Haris got her chance by appealing to those groups and thus she was never going to challenge those interests.

[–] khepri@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Oh she never in 100 years would have won a primary. She was like rank 8 of 10 in the 2020 primaries, people do not like her

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[–] Son_of_Macha@lemmy.cafe 24 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Flopped? It was incredibly close and if Elon did what he claimed she probably won overall. It's only MAGAts that think it was a landslide.

[–] booly@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 weeks ago

When a team loses a basketball game by 1 point, literally every missed shot or turnover (or blown defensive coverage leading to an easy basket for the other side or foul leading to made free throws) could be pointed to as the "cause" of that loss.

So yeah, if she were an actual better politician she probably would've won with the cards she was dealt. But there were also dozens of other causes that would've made her (or an alternative candidate) win, all else being equal.

And it's hard to see how a better politician would've ended up in that position to begin with. The circumstances of how Harris ended up as VP probably wouldn't have happened if not for the specific way that her 2020 campaign flamed out.

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

So she threw intentionally for Israel. Checks out.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well stop being right wing democrat

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 weeks ago

Number of times a candidate has run against or in place of the incumbent and failed miserably before Harris: 3

..And succeeded: 0

Number of times a candidate has run against or in place of the incumbent and failed miserably after Harris: 4

It was a terribly weak position, but she foolishly believed in the American people to pick the best of two bad options.

She was misguided.

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