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[–] jaaake@lemmy.world 83 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Why do people keep dunking specifically on Obama for this? Isn't this the same as every US president ever?

[–] dogbert@lemmy.zip 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Obama was the “change” guy that libs thought was gonna make everyone’s lives better. The rest of them are known to be evil pieces of shit, but libs with zero principles need to be reminded of their naivety. Notice how Obama deported the most Mexicans of any president ever and libs dont even give a fuck lmao.

[–] jaaake@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (14 children)

You do remember who preceded Obama, right? At the time, W. was the dumbest president the world had ever seen. In comparison to that, I'd say Obama delivered on the hope and change.

I'm not saying that I can excuse his take on deportation, or the fact that he's also an establishment democrat, but at this point, who the fuck cares? I'd take another Obama over Trump in a heartbeat. I'd rather have someone in office that I agree with 40% of their takes than 0%.

Obviously he's neither perfect now, nor was he at the time, but why are people still talking about him at all? Same with Biden. His administration shit the bed and got us in the current situation, but there's not anything we can do about it now.

We need to be looking forward, and dunking on someone who was (in comparison to US presidents) always ranked in the top 20% of most progressive of ALL presidents, and only behind Carter in the last 50 years... it seems like in order to get more left, we've got a lot of ground to cover and Obama would be in the correct direction.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Obama wasn't a progressive, he just sounded progressive. He had a mandate, a majority in both houses, and what does he do?

Continue everything the last guy did, pass the healthcare plan from the creators of project 2025, and attempt to "reach across the isle" towards people openly racist towards him

If we had another Obama, we'd just be putting fascism on hold for another 8 years. We can't keep splitting the difference with the far right

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But the choice will be Trump-like or Obama-like. There is no "progressive revolution" option at this time.

Complaining about Obama-like is pushing a both sides narrative, which suppresses democrat voters.

If you want things to be less shit, stop doing that.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 16 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I refuse your defeatist nonsense. There's 3 years left, progressives are making huge inroads into both local governments and the party machinery, and the old guard is being changed out

Even if I were wrong about it, that's still the only way out. Obama-like means nothing changes, Biden was Obama-like - we didn't recover from Trump I, Biden just stabilized the new normal and insisted it's fine now.

We have to demand better, starting now. While we have the time

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[–] Hyperrealism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

W. was the dumbest president the world had ever seen.

Went to Harvard and Yale. First president with an MBA. SAT score was good. His folksy act was just that. An act. He was told to dumb down his language by Karl Rove and others. There are videos of him speaking before he became a presidential nominee, and the difference is obvious.

Relatively intelligent man pretending to be stupid.

And to his credit, it worked. Got elected twice and to this day people are more likely to blame the Iraq war on evil mastermind Cheney. And unlike plenty of supposedly intelligent leaders, he's smart enough to keep a low profile now he's retired.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Relatively intelligent man pretending to be stupid.

You can actually look up footage from when he was Governor of Texas in the 1990s and he was well-spoken and intelligent (despite his saying very little that I agreed with). Did he have an aneurysm prior to the 2000 election? Not very likely, especially when Republicans have been consciously targeting their rhetoric at a fifth-grade reading level for decades.

I don't understand why we're so willing to believe that the people who have completely taken over the United States of America with minimal effort have somehow done this while being literally stupid.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Were you alive and old enough to remember GWB's term? Or are you going entirely on second hand information?

Because I am, and he was definitely a fucking idiot.

For fuck sake, Donald Trump went to Wharton. It just means they had rich and well connected parents.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh look, another plain-speaking “smart” republican that needs interpretation and rationalization to tell us who he really is and what he really means.

Sure man. Canned speeches vs real time. Not even in the same league as Obama. Dude got the job because of the family name and thought it would be an easy ride until reality hit him right in thr nose. Then he got all fundy and stubborn. Know who else graduated from prestigious schools and is president? Yeah, bet you can guess.

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[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We are looking forward by making excuses for our past? Lol okay.

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[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

Because he made a lot of dumb kids believe he would be the good one, the was just another bog standard piece of shit, except better at talking.

He made people hope, then murdered that hope¹ with a hellfire missile launched from a drone, to the point we dare not hope on days with a clear blue sky.

¹for anyone who paid literally any attention or had a memory longer than 12 seconds. Also all the people he murdered, but neither of us care about them.

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[–] etherphon@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Spicy take from a guy named after a Dilbert character.

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[–] hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

the point is to drive a wedge between leftists (who see him as just another imperialist figurehead) and liberals (who see him as the most progressive president we've had since lbj)

[–] dogbert@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ah yes, liberals. Known for being famously aligned with leftism.

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[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

I presume you're a shitlib?

What of our programs are you on board with?

Since your party has spent the last year trying to kill the president by sucking his dick like the offspring of Nancy reagan and a jet engine til he has a heart attack, I presume you've decided to back left projects, the projects of your allies, until there's a viable lib option again.

What are your mutual aid projects? How do you support your local socialist groups? Are you going more militant/insurrectionist and arming the most marginalized in your community?

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[–] ulterno@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago

Maybe because he's the only one who made someone happy?

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

Because everyone here already knows that other recent US presidents like Bush and Trump were horrible. But many people mistakenly believe Obama was a morally good president simply because they're the best of a bad bunch. It's important to understand that even Obama presided over large-scale, avoidable atrocities.

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[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (15 children)

His authorization of drone attacks was sad. But millions? More like thousands.

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[–] Lupo@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Don't sleep on Legend of the Galactic Heros. One of the greatest scifi dramas of all time.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 15 points 1 week ago

Love me some shitlib slander.

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yall arguing over puppets.

we're all america, we all own this.

Presidents and Atrocities

President Key Events (Updated for Trump) Death Toll Estimate Score
George H.W. Bush (1989-1993) Gulf War civilian deaths; post-uprising abandonments; War on Drugs disparities.[11][12] 20k-100k+ Medium-High
Bill Clinton (1993-2001) Iraq sanctions (500k+ kids); Balkans bombing; Rwanda inaction.[ prior] 500k+ indirect High
George W. Bush (2001-2009) Iraq/Afghan wars (1M+); torture programs.[13] 1M+ High
Barack Obama (2009-2017) Drone strikes (3k-10k); Libya chaos (20k+); 3M deportations.[ prior] 50k+ Medium
Donald Trump (2017-2021, 2025-) Family separations (5k+ kids, thousands missing); Yemen support (400k+); USAID cuts (14M+ projected by 2030, 100k+ actual so far); COVID negligence (1M+ US).[1][4][8][ prior] 1M+ US + 14M+ global projected High
Joe Biden (2021-2025) Gaza support (40k+); Afghan withdrawal chaos.[ prior] 50k+ Medium

Key Impacts of Recent Policies

Trump's USAID shutdown (83% cut in 2025) has reversed 91M lives saved (2001-2021), projecting 14M+ excess deaths by 2030 from HIV, malaria, TB, malnutrition—comparable to a pandemic. Israeli support continues U.S. pattern but isn't uniquely escalated here; no data confirms Venezuelan bombings. ICE/migrant camp claims lack death toll evidence beyond separations, though humanitarian crises persist.[ prior] Both parties bear responsibility, but scale of aid cuts elevates Trump's current score.[5][6][8][9][1]

Sources [1] Study Projects Over 14 Million Preventable Deaths by 2030 ... https://www.isglobal.org/en/-/mas-de-14-millones-de-muertes-prevenibles-de-aqui-a-2030-si-continuan-los-recortes-a-la-financiacion-de-usaid [2] Tracking Anticipated Deaths from USAID Funding Cuts | SPH https://www.bu.edu/sph/news/articles/2025/tracking-anticipated-deaths-from-usaid-funding-cuts/ [3] School of Public Health: Tracking anticipated deaths from USAID funding cuts https://www.pslhub.org/learn/organisations-linked-to-patient-safety-uk-and-beyond/international-patient-safety/school-of-public-health-tracking-anticipated-deaths-from-usaid-funding-cuts-r13173/ [4] USAID cuts may cause 14 million more deaths in next five years, study says https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/07/01/usaid-cuts-aid-14-million-deaths/ [5] Research finds more than 14 million preventable deaths by 2030 if ... https://ph.ucla.edu/news-events/news/research-finds-more-14-million-preventable-deaths-2030-if-usaid-defunding [6] Rubio hails end of USAID as study says its elimination could contribute to 14 million deaths in next 5 years https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/01/politics/us-aid-elimination-study-14-million-deaths [7] [PDF] BU researcher warns of 367,000 deaths from halted USAID programs https://www.medschool.umaryland.edu/media/som/news/news-logos/BU-researcher-warns-of-367,000-deaths-from-halted-USAID-programs_.pdf [8] USAID shutdown has led to hundreds of thousands of deaths https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/usaid-shutdown-has-led-to-hundreds-of-thousands-of-deaths/ [9] The Shutdown of U.S.A.I.D. Has Already Killed Hundreds of Thousands https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-new-yorker-documentary/the-shutdown-of-usaid-has-already-killed-hundreds-of-thousands [10] “It's Unacceptable”: BU Mathematician Tracks How Many Deaths ... https://www.bu.edu/articles/2025/mathematician-tracks-deaths-from-usaid-medicaid-cuts/ [11] Mehdi Hasan on George H.W. Bush's Ignored Legacy: War Crimes ... https://www.democracynow.org/2018/12/3/mehdi_hasan_on_george_hw_bushs [12] George H.W. Bush leaves mixed record on race, civil rights https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/12/03/george-h-w-bush-race-civil-rights-war-drugs/2197675002/ [13] Criminal complaint against Gerorge W Bush - ECCHR https://www.ecchr.eu/en/case/criminal-complaint-against-bush/

also, obama is responsible for the largest domestic spying operation in history. Thank you Edward Snowden for your sacrifice. Russian exile is a poor payback by the American citizenry.

[–] Hyperrealism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

we’re all america, we all own this.

Not everyone on the internet is American. From a non-American perspective, it is good you point out that previous presidencies also have a death toll. Doesn't get much better if you go further back, either.

Not that chauvanism is a specifically American disease, but I can't help but think that American exceptionalism means that America is often in denial. Imagine having to explain naming a clothing store Banana Republic, to a survivor of the Guatamalan genocide.

Weirdly, it's actually quite reassuring from a non-American perspective. Trump's bad, but not exceptionally so.

Sure he's stabbing Europe and Ukraine in the back, but Bush and Obama helped cause and perpetuate a refugee crisis that seriously destabilized the EU and helped fuel the rise of the far right. Not as if Biden was particularly quick in delivering weapons to Ukraine either. Obama's reaction to the annexation of Crimea wasn't stellar either.

Sure, he'll probably invade Venezuela, but Maduro is no Allende, and the leader of Venezuela's opposition is no Pinochet.

Sure, he's tariffed South East Asia, but he's not going to start another war in Vietnam or bomb Laos.

Sure, he bombed Tehran, but it's not as if he overthrew the democratically elected government, and paved the way for the Islamic Revolution. That was Eisenhower.

Sure, Trump's supporting Netenyahu. But under Reagan the US arguably helped Iraq build chemical weapons, knowing that Saddam would use them against the Iranians and Kurds.

Sure, Trump's a racist who has a contentious relationship with African leaders, and is perpetuating the myth of a white genocide in South Africa. But it's not like he had Lumumba, the democratically elected leader of newly indepenent Congo murdered, that happened under Eisenhower. An assassination that would arguably ultimately result in the first and second Congo war, and the death of roughly 5 million people.

It should be reassuring for Americans too.

Sure, ICE is bad, but it's not like he's put 120,000 people in concentration camps like Roosevelt did. He hasn't deported up to 2 million Mexican and Mexican Americans either, like happened under Hoover. Not yet, at least.

Cheer up America. This is business as usual. This is America. Don't catch you slippin' now.

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