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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 6 points 1 hour ago

Technically vaccines are related to diagnosis in that one must be alive to be diagnosed

[–] Devial@discuss.online 11 points 2 hours ago

To quote Hbomberguy:

"The anti vaccine movement had next to no evidence [27] years ago, and they have even less today"

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Actually no. Pollution has been identified as a potential cause. Why don't you do something about that?

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

If the problem falls under the purview of one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse, the facists in charge are for it. If it doesn't, the fascist are keeping it that way on purpose.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today -1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I didnt vaccinate guys.

Downvote all you want. You need a common enemy here, so I can be that for you. :)

Get the anti vaxxer!

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

How autistic do you feel you aren't?

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 0 points 1 hour ago

Im not at all autistic.. :)

Is it because Im sticking my neck out on Lemmy you think so?

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 16 points 7 hours ago

First, that is not your child. It is a fucking elephant.

Second, I don't care if the elephant says it has a high tolerance. You don't shoot up anything with this much smack.

Third, labeling this poor junkie elephant as an aspie is just cruel and unusual.

[–] blackjam_alex@lemmy.world 42 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

I'm starting to think that a good portion of the antivaxx people are just afraid of needles.

[–] Devial@discuss.online 8 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 21 minutes ago)

A lot of them been so indoctrinated into mistrusting authorities and instutions, that they basically disbelieve anything they say on principle.

And al the evidence, all the scientists telling them they're wrong just ends up reinforcing their belief in some giant conspiracy.

It's sadly been shown in more than one study that changing the mind of conspiracy theorists with reason, argumens or evidence is basically impossible. It's almost a self preservation instict against cognitive dissonance. They were so sure they were right, and now so one is telling them they're not. That feels shit, and it feels shit to accept you were wrong about something you so fervently insisted was true. So their brains basically go into self defense mode, and just reject and attack anything that threatens the shaky fundamentals of their entire belief system. The best thing you can attmept to do is to distract them. Get them to talk and think about other things. When they mention the conspiracy, don't engage, don't argue how they're wrong, they'll just dig their heels in deeper, just change the topic to something else. Force them to spend less time in their delusions. Eventually, if you're lucky, they might gain enough distance to the topic, and stop caring about it enough that they're ready to start accepting how batshit insane those conspiracies are.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Former anti-vaxxer here, I personally did. I looked for any excuse to avoid that goddamn needle. Long story short: I have pain hypersensitivity, so it hurts a lot more, not to mention I met a lot of doctors who did it in a really clumsy way in my life.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 21 minutes ago) (1 children)

I'm getting a little worried they're not even doing their own research, at all!

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 2 points 2 hours ago

I'm worried that they do.

[–] halvar@lemy.lol 37 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

is that elephant supposed to be a... Republican?

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 hours ago

Makes sense. Full of pricks.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 25 points 12 hours ago

"The elephant in the room"

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I cannot work out why it's an elephant. Probably because that's just whatever the AI came up with and for some reason they just pick the first result

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 28 points 11 hours ago

Or because the idiom "the elephant in the room" is being depicted literally (insinuating their medicated autistic child is 'an unfortunate unwanted fact' - which I personally feel is derogatory to the child)

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 39 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

i dont know how but it just FEELS like AI generated

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 4 points 2 hours ago

There really is a style to it.

[–] KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 14 hours ago (9 children)

it's the faces, the character shapes, but really that yellow hue across the image. Perhaps someone with some color theory knowledge could explain why ChatGPT generates images like that.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Basically AI is started to poison itself, and AI has no concept of color grading, so errors are adding up. I don't know if GLAZE and other poisoning methods made the matters worse, but wouldn't be surprised.

[–] my_hat_stinks@programming.dev 8 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

For me it's the scale and perspective that stood out first. Both people are the same size on-screen but the one on the right is also supposed to be closer so they're actually huge, but they also have a tiny chair. Both chairs are also pointed away from the TV which is as big as a person, but they're also somehow not facing each other so the closer person still has to turn around. The seat on the left would have to be pushed right up against the wall but they somehow managed to fit a lamp behind it too.

It just feels very strange as someone with first-hand experience of 3d space.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

It just feels very strange as someone with first-hand experience of 3d space.

#humblebrag

[–] wieson@feddit.org 2 points 3 hours ago

Afaik imgen ai starts with a salt and pepper noise image (randomised grey values, or maybe even randomised colour values). It then pushes and pulls the image in the direction of its learned nodes and weights.

So typically an imgen ai will generate images with a very even distribution of value (light and dark). It will have difficulty generating a picture like a Rembrandt painting with high light/dark contrasts. It probably can't generate pictures with a lot of dark and one small bright spot. At least not out of the box.

[–] m532@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

I heard its a watermark.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 9 points 11 hours ago

I wonder if it's a white balance thing, as in the setting you'd see on a camera or in a post processing tool.

For instance, consider that "soft" or "warm" light bulbs (say 3000K and below) are common in cozy indoor areas. They cast a much more yellow color of light compared with a daylight bulb or actual daylight, which will look very blue in comparison.

It's like the model detected that the image was people in a living room and it applied a warm white balance to the whole picture because most images of a family in the living room have warm lighting globally.

But since it is a machine and apparently has not yet been explicitly taught that comics generally have bright colors and no strange tints, then it does not adjust accordingly.

I wonder if that is even giving it too much credit. Maybe it's just the deterioration from all the iterations of garbage in, garbage out.

[–] dontsayaword@piefed.social 22 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I read that it's due to model collapse - the AIs are now trained on their own AI-generated content, like all the auto generated ghibli-style images with yellow tint

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Not necessarily color theory, but archived comics from the 1970s and prior tend to be yellowed from degradation on their original prints (which were then scanned). It could also be the colors available to print artists at the time which were more muted compared to today.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Although it really only happened recently. If you look at older generated images, they don't have the yellow colouration.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 hours ago

In that case, I guess that potential vector is moot. Although it could be that data wasn't available until recent training of the weights.

[–] Bonus@mander.xyz 3 points 10 hours ago

There's definitely a sepia tone on most of it. Weird. Why would they go with a red flag so frequently?

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

What your world isn't piss coloured? How boring.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

...There's a breaking bad joke to be made somewhere...

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago

Someday artists are going to struggle to replicate this "look" in order to make memes and jokes.

On the sides of our cave walls.

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[–] YoiksAndAway@piefed.zip 66 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

"How can we let the reader know that the elephant in the room has autism?"

"Well, how about if we have it wear a button that says, 'I have autism", you know, like people with autism do?"

"Brilliant! And how do we let the reader know that the autism is from vaccinations?"

"Easy! We just show a bunch of hypodermic syringes sticking out of it, like all of those vaccine-loving cuck doctors just stabbed it and left them there."

"Did they bother to depress the syringe and inject the vaccine?"

"Nope!"

"Brilliant!"

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

you are overestimating the amount of humans involved in the creation of this image

[–] And009@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 8 hours ago

Ai is dumb humans, averaged.

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 16 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

hbomberguy has a really great video about vaccines and autism, and how even their original correlation was incredibly weak

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 16 points 13 hours ago

And the guy who promoted the study did it to sell his separate vaccines instead of the combined vaccines they give children.

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 84 points 18 hours ago (3 children)
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 76 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Well yes, it's antivax slop and an anti-antivax comment pointing out how ridiculous it is

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 hours ago
[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 12 hours ago

Bravest slop identifier

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[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 20 points 15 hours ago

You know it's a good comic when they have to explain it with the I have autism pin.

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 71 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

If vaccines were given in Pop-Tart form there wouldn't be an antivax movement.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 39 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

They used to do sugar cubes saturated with vaccine for polio, we should go back to that. I know there are reasons they stopped using it, but Americans are definitely more likely to eat sugar than get vaccinated, so let’s just call it a wash in terms of health risks.

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