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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 130 points 6 days ago (14 children)

While I wholeheartedly agree with her message, the reality is that any employee that interrupts a company event to criticize the company until they are escorted out of the room is gonna be fired regardless of the accuracy of their statements. We should be appalled at Microsoft's complicity in Gaza, not that they fired an employee.

I applaud her for her stand, but she and everyone knew this would result in her termination.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

No. Absolutely fuck everything about your argument against the fired employee. We should be appalled at her termination as well as Microsoft's atrocities.

Did you mean to say we shouldn't be surprised that she got fired, or do you truly believe nobody should be appalled at Microsoft's decision to fire her?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Civil disobedience involves the acceptance of consequences.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 3 points 5 days ago

No. It may involve the expectation of consequences, for the sake of planning for retaliation, but anybody who condemns atrocities should also oppose retaliation against the condemnation.

Maybe some folks commit civil disobedience with the intention of voluntarily facing the consequences, but that's entirely up to those individuals. Even in that case, they then depend on the broader society supporting their disobedience and demanding their retaliators back down.

Absolutely fuck everything about this "well they had it coming" apologia mindset.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Name a job where interrupting a CEO's presentation in public wouldn't be a terminable offense. What employee handbook says "If you've exhausted all other internal channels and are unhappy with the company's direction, just call out the boss in front of thousands of people and there won't be consequences."

If your company is that evil and unsettling to change, you call them out and resign. Calling them out but still wanting to be paid is saying you're okay with taking blood money as long as you're saying it's bad.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 1 points 5 days ago

I don't give a tenth of a rat's shit. People gotta have a place to live, food to eat, and healthcare, and all of those require employment. Unless you can show me another employer in her field who isn't committing or aiding atrocities, which I'm confident you cannot.

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