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[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago (6 children)

In the USA it's either racism or Reagan that's the cause of some of the most fucked up stuff.

[–] Bluedragon012@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (5 children)

You forgot one, "Rich white people." while typically they are associated with the first two, there are distinct evils that happen as well.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago (4 children)

If you can't see the inherent connection between Reagan-era economic policies and "rich white people" becoming the monstrosity that it is today, then I think this conversation is above your level.

[–] Bluedragon012@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, incorrect, there is a breed of rich white people in the democrat and apolitical space. These are the fucks that go on artist retreats abroad and then come back and makes sure all thier friends know that they went on that retreat via slide show and make a point of telling everyone how thier retreat opened thier spiritual mind or some shit. It's also the white cracker ass families that you see on the sides of crochet sets or mildly expensive out door novelties play sets. It's so strange but those fucks are real. This is also the people who don't know what the fuck a lemmy is, or hell even a reddit is. These are the people whos major goals is to make the best lemon pie at the local hoa meeting for thier ritzi rich people neighborhood. These are the people who are so far out of the loop that they make decisions that harm us poor, not our an ounce of maliciousness, rather, because they have enough money that they no longer worry about worldly shit. Go read Anne Moody, Taylor Branch, and anything about HOAs and why they formed. They are distinct non-republican entity that live in thier own plastic universe.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wow, there's a lot to unpack here.

First of all, you're ignoring the fact that Reagan's policies and legacy disproportionally benefit the rich and disadvantage the poor regardless of political affiliation, so you are demonstrating your ignorance right off the bat.

Second of all, it sounds like you're criticizing the upper-middle class rather than the owner/oligarch caste that's actually the problem. I don't give a fuck if a doctor or a lawyer makes six figures and has a more comfortable life than I do. I give a fuck that a billionaire who owns the means of production and contributes nothing to society is able to siphon the wealth of a nation, give proportionally nothing back in taxes while simultaneously milking the nation's coffers, hoard the fruits of other people's labor which is necessary to their livelihoods; all without lifting a finger other than to place it on the policy decisions of easily-bribed lawmakers.

If you can't see the difference between those two things, then this conversation is indeed above your level.

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It's also the white cracker ass families that you see on the sides of crochet sets or mildly expensive out door novelties play sets.

Wow, okay, just bring racism into it. It's totally possible to criticize class disparity without dropping slurs but you did it anyway.

Also, what the fuck do crochet sets and play sets have to do with anything? I don't give a shit what people do in their free time, and it's really weird that you're choosing to fixate on and resent that of all the things. You sound like jealous brat who doesn't care about uplifting the poor and the marginalized, but only wants to tear people down to your level because of nothing but envy.

These are the people whos major goals is to make the best lemon pie at the local hoa meeting for thier ritzi rich people neighborhood.

What the fuck is wrong with wanting to bring something nice to a potluck? That transcends socioeconomic status. If you want to focus on the problems with HOAs, then focus on that but lemon pie isn't one of them.

These are the people who are so far out of the loop that they make decisions that harm us poor, not our an ounce of maliciousness, rather, because they have enough money that they no longer worry about worldly shit.

Those are the billionaire oligarchs, not the upper-middle class who have jobs with nice salaries. If you're focusing your ire on anyone who makes more money than you instead of the people who own the means of production and don't have to work, then the oligarch's propaganda is working on you.

[–] Bluedragon012@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago

So first: The ultra rich are still apart of the problem. That is not in contention.

I am disabled and on fixed income, I bring in less than 1200 a month. So yes the "upper middle" class looks very rich to me. And of course I'm envious of them, they can afford good food, amazing housing, cover and sudden expensive hiccups of living, they get to travel, they get to see more of the world, they get to do more. All things I dont get to do because I gut unlucky in the zip code and genetic lottery.

You want me to be kind and nice to a people who look at me as a leach in society and would like nothing more than to see me disappear?

Also, if you are really upset that I think rich white people don't deserve respect, these are the 2 faced people who would hire minority servants.

Also I can't uplift the poor if I'm part of the poor. In the civil rights movement, there were and still are smaller fish in the shit scale, but who's actions do still damage to the lower classes and minorities.

I'm the type of guy who would point out that Martin Luther King Jr. Had a connection to the Rockefellers.

If I had those 6 figures, I'd be putting it to making sure my husbands family had enough money to raise thier 3 children full time. If I had that kid of money, I'd make sure my cousins saverely autistic child receives the care and attention they need.

But I can't get those 6 figures because I was born in a body that dosent make enough energy for normal living.

I'm calling out the nonsocialist democrats who hold the old guard. I'm calling out those who don't listen to the poor because they are not in it.

But sure, the sole problem alone is 100 or so ultrarich mofos, surely ending them will solve All the problems... /s

You can kill the big weeds, but the smaller weeds will come back and haunt us once again. Civil rights movement to Regan, to now, it keeps repeating and it gets worse or is a different flavor of bad each time, this problem runs deep and has many roots. I don't have a solution, I'm identifying the problems. (note the plural, there are multiple problems all working to stop us from achieving our shared goals of lifting the poor and ending evil people)

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