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It'll cost $9 each time. They're raising money for the mass transit system by charging specifically those people who don't use the mass transit system and that feels really unfair to me.

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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You live in literally the best transit area in the entire nation. One of the best in the world.

Take Transit. You are lucky enough to be in one of the areas where you aren't forced to drive. You are incredibly privileged to live there, and are able to take transit to pretty much wherever you like.

Plus it's lower Manhattan. You said you live inside the congestion zone, which means lets be real, this is a drop in the bucket compared to actually driving there. Just your car you probably pay for storage, some of the highest gas in the country, and the highest insurance in the country, and you're still complaining that there's a slight tax now because you are choosing not to take the incredibly convenient, regular, and world renown subway system?

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Even in NYC (where driving is particularly slow and mass transit is particularly well developed) it's still usually significantly faster to drive than it is to take mass transit unless you're traveling within Manhattan or between two stops of the same express train. The trips I frequently take are about twice as fast by car as by mass transit, so from my point of view I am forced to take mass transit (when I have nowhere to park at my destination) while people outside the city have the luxury of quickly driving directly from where they are to where they want to be.

I'm not going to get into my opinion of how pleasant (or not) taking mass transit is compared to driving, because that's subjective. However, I will note that according to the MTA's own survey, a little over half of the people who do take mass transit are dissatisfied by it.

Mass transit is necessary here because the city has an old layout not designed for cars and so it wouldn't be able to function if everyone had to drive. That doesn't imply that mass transit is pleasant or convenient. It's just often the only option.

[–] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Mass transit is necessary here because the city has an old layout not designed for cars and so it wouldn't be able to function if everyone had to drive.

Cities shouldn't be designed for cars. They should be designed for people. I get it. They've added a tax and that's inconvenient. I agree.

I live in a European city with a medieval layout. I'm happy they started banning cars. Our city is more liveable without than with cars.