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A Long Island man driving to work gets handcuffed by ICE — despite being U.S. citizen
(www.nbcnewyork.com)
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No reasonable, articulable suspicion of crime? No ID.
You are required to show your driver's license if you're asked for it by law enforcement while driving in New York state.
Edit: Holy shit y'all are insane. I knew Lemmy was an echo chamber but mass downvoting simple, factual information like this really makes me think less of you.
Law enforcement is not permitted to randomly pull over vehicles. They provided no justification. This is clearly illegal.
Random would actually be more ethical! They obviously saw a person that was not lilly-white, and pulled him over. That's literally policy guided by racism!
"You look like someone we're looking for" will get them pretty far in the courts. They don't have to tell you who that person is, but by the time you sue and you're going through the court process, they'll find someone on their list who looks like you so that they can say "oh yeah it was this guy we were looking for, we promise" and the case gets dismissed.
Cops can always find a reason to pull you over. Also, they have no obligation to tell you why they did so. 1 mph over the speed limit? Valid traffic stop. You slowly drifted from the right side of the lane to the left side? Valid traffic stop in the eyes of the law.
Is it bullshit? Yes. Illegal? No.
Is the driver in the OP still required to provide his license when pulled over?
Yes.
The US really does seem less "free" than most western countries honestly.
I can't even remember ever being asked for my ID by police inside the EU
Yeah.
I can't remember exactly how it goes here in Australia, but I haven't carried my ID with me (we don't have electronic ID yet) for 5 years or so and have never encountered any problems.
I think, if they're going to fine you (like for speeding or whatever) then you have to identify yourself but not necessarily by providing a physical ID. I think you just give them your name and DoB and they look it up, and match it to your car.
The only other time I can recall being stopped is for a breath / alcohol test. You don't need any ID if you're not over the limit.
I don't recall any other interaction with the police of any kind really.
Say it a third time , maybe you’ll get a different answer