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[โ€“] tenebrisnox@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You'll forgive me but that's not evidence of a "crank" (unless "crank" simply refers to anyone who doesn't share your views). You made the assertion that Murray's "been many many times more discredited than proven correct". As I said, I'm happy to have my opinion of Murray changed but you've not provided any evidence other than a Wikipedia page which doesn't seem to show he was "discredited" in the way you think it does. He has some opinions which many people don't share (Salisbury and Starmer come to mind) but, generally, he appears to me to have stood up for some righteous causes (Assange, Palestine, the influence of oligarchs on Brtitish politicians).

[โ€“] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

To most liberals if you don't regurgitate their discredited talking points you are seen as on the fringe, or extreme, even if your analysis is coherent and borne by events. It's one of the reasons why people on both the right and the left despise liberals.