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People with ASPD are less likely to be manipulative than average. They don't have the patience for it. Playing into society's rules well enough to manipulate someone is painful to them. Lying, they can do that, but not the kind of skillful mind games you see on TV. You've been sold a fake stereotype. These two words are the names of fake stereotypes.
I've dealt with enough reptiles in skin suits, especially in the corporate world, that I don't think those terms are stereotypes.
I don't think people with ASPD should be locked away, but I do tend be watchful. I'm also leery of those with BPD, Narcissism, and Borderline. I've had some profoundly negative experiences.
Okay, I'm going to split this conversation into two parallel universes where I say two different things, and I'd like you to collapse the superposition as you please.
Universe 1: you're seriously calling mentally ill people reptiles? You've acknowledged they have a diagnosis of a mental disorder, and you're dehumanising them for it? You're a bigot.
Universe 2: those reptiles don't have ASPD, that's just a stereotype you've been sold. They're perfectly mentally healthy, they're just assholes. Mental disorders are defined by how they impair and harm the people who have them. Those reptiles aren't impaired or harmed. Again; you've been sold a fake stereotype of mental illness.
Okay, now you can pick one of those two universes to be the one we live in, depending on which of the two arguments I made that you prefer.
No.
There are also pedophiles that live without offending. Good for them.
I don't think that personality disorders are really like mental illness.
I do know that when I read it on someone, the false affect and charisma absolutely makes my skin crawl. The theory of mind that I get is profoundly unsettling and I want nothing to do with them on a personal level.
I will never trust anyone that I read that way. They can make great lawyers and surgeons and such, but it doesn't mean we'll ever be friends. They're also capable of some pretty 'evil' behaviour. Thus, reptiles in skin sutits.
Amorality is a common result of a conscious empathy system. Sometimes you can tell when the empathy isn't running.
The DSM is for classifying disorders, not sins. You're thinking of the Bible. Doctors aren't priests.