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Actually insane to say that Collective Shout is blameless. Go look at the vile shit their members are spewing. Not only are they demonstrably culpable for this, they're also engaging in hate speech and disinformation and targeted harassment.
The payment situation is also to blame.
Twitter is not, as it turns out, the only place where well articulated sentences get misinterpreted.
I love the mental gymnastics of saying that you’re a feminist and also anti-abortion. The only way a woman gets pregnant is from sperm. And in 99% of cases, that was through the interaction with a man. And it may have not been consensual.
But either way, now said woman is bound to modify her body and life because of her interaction with a man, rather than being able to make her own choice, because you said so and you know what’s best for her. She’s “empowered” to be a good little breeder and produce either men or other breeders because apparently that’s what women are good for when you take away their autonomy, which is really what these groups want. Which, is also a big reason why they hate trans women. Trans women cannot do the only job a woman should have, which is to produce offspring.
They would build such an amazing society! With so many empowered women! Freed from the shackles of being able to think or decide for themselves, ready to fulfill their ultimate dream of producing offspring, taking care of offspring, and then dying.
Except
But by making sure that women carry children to term whether or not they want to, it’s basically male run, they haven’t said anything about male/female equality.
It’s not the right terminology. Radical feminism has its own flaws, but this is Christian fundamentalism, nothing more, no matter how they label it.
Nobody said that. Except you, I guess.
They didn't say blameless, but they did heavily imply Collective Shout isn't a problem and that people are worried about the wrong thing. I think Noxy's interpretation and response that there's multiple things to blame was pretty reasonable.
~~No one is saying they are blameless. We are saying they are not the issue that we need to focus on fixing here.~~
Edit: Fuck. Turns out I was wrong.
Yes they are. Yes the fuck they absolutely are.
Fuck. You are right, my apologies.