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Everything you claim should be done is what Bernie Sanders supported and that got us nowhere.
It's really easy to get up on your high horse and claim that leftist identity politics is the problem instead of looking at the systemic failures of American democracy. Lobbying, Gerrymandering, media outlet control, anti-intellectual propaganda, voter disenfranchisement, an underfunded education system, the electoral college, a packed supreme court, etc.
This isn't a case of 'if you can stop being righteous and just hate gay people for a moment we could have had universal health care.' This is a case of the democratic process unravelling in its end stages as the popular candidate lost the vote four times in the seven presidential elections.
Imagine if Bernie just gave up the first time he lost an election, he would have bowed out in 1972 when he only got 2.1% of the vote in a Vermont Senate special election.
Instead he's been bang on consistent with his views for going on 60 goddamn years now. The rest of the left could learn a lot from that.
Never forget that thousands lined up to vote for Bernie during covid, putting their health at risk and he ultimately... dropped out.
Real leadership quality there. I'm sure his candidacy would have been enough to stop the fascists.
Joe Biden.
What's really sunk is this widespread, infectious binary thinking. It's not even natural, it's a product of media and propaganda.
If you all think "focusing on workers" as a priority is the same as "hate gay people" then we have no hope. It means our minds are not capable of holding simultaneous ideas or making priorities anymore. It fucking sucks and I don't know how to explain things anymore to people in ways that don't trigger this kind of "all or nothing" "love or hate" "black and white" thinking mode, and it's getting worse.
You wanted equality? Then you should have looked at how the average dumbass white, straight american views it... as a secondary issue. Then used their primary issues to leverage our society to the issues we wanted to see. Now we lose everything because we couldn't work with the problem we had and instead tried to solve all the problems at once. It's dumb and sometimes I want to give up and let you all have the fascist hellhole nightmare you all seemed to secretly want so you can continue to be victims of the establishment and not have to get off your asses and DO something for your community.
That's a little hypocritical of you to call this "widespread, infectious binary thinking" when I was pointing this out in your comment, not advocating for it.
You're faulting liberals for stifling class warfare through engaging in identity politics, when you said so yourself that it doesn't have to be either or.
Identity politics isn't the enemy of class warfare, it's corporate interests, lobbying, and billionaires, and they want you to do exactly what you are doing now, which is to get liberals to gatekeep each other while they laugh at low tax rates.
I was saying that you pointing it out in my comment was the binary, black and white attitude. I say: "We on the left have been tackling this problem wrong, most American's don't care about the issues we keep hitting them with." To which Lefty Clone #409687 says "How can you hate marginalized people so much you're willing to turn your back on them????"
It sounds exactly the same to me as "You want to help children in Gaza? How can you empower anti-semitism???" In that, one has nothing to do with the other. It's an artificial binary used to keep us from getting anywhere. Yah, we did too much scolding and identity politics and abstract worries that people don't see... Covid should have been our wake-up call that people's minds have changed or melted out their ears, we should have focused on issues that average americans actually care about, we should have leveraged their selfish worries and used their fear to fight the system that wants to send us all to camps. Then we could have done better and pushed our desires for a just and equitable world back on stage and got that shit protected... we were even making progress on it for a little while. Then everyone started falling for the same distractions.
Uh... Just force 99% to work like slaves, pretend there's scarcity by not allowing health or food to some humans to spur the shit out of the parents, while they are looking away, teach them and their kids and their kids continually that there's scarcity and we have to work insanely much to survive. Then be offended when equality, the literal core issue, that you are all treated like trash by a higher hierarchy and for no reason.. there are maybe 40 people you need to conquer but nah, focus on your fucking status game, focus on fucking if a guy wants cock???? Then say wow, so you care so much about blah blah? Literally the objective of equality is no it is cool that you hyper focus but also oops solve problems solve health solve happiness solve productivity solve fucking not burning the boreal and slaying the entire human race... Equality isn't a secondary issue.. its a root issue.