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It's really sad to see SimpleX goes the shitcoin route to try and fund their project, Ethereum is not ethical as I briefly explained in this post

Now is a perfect opportunity to fork the project with I2P and add Monero as the payment option both for people to transact and fund the developers and I2P operators

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[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

i thought simplex was completely decentralized p2p. can't it simply be forked?

[–] Neptr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Forking isnt a solution, unless you are committed to patching all future security vulnerabilities and adding feature updates on you own. Cryptography is complicated, designing a secure messenger is very complicated. Forking isnt a magic bullet.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 7 points 6 days ago

Forking isnt a magic bullet.

No, but good projects have come from forking away from bad decisions.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

you are speaking about hard forking. soft forking is an option

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

With soft forks you still need to merge upstream changes and figure out what to do when they're incompatible with your changes, do your own testing of your fork once you've merged the changes, etc.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

that's right, but it's still less work

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

if I count the words, that's true, but the 2 fork strategies have meaningful difference

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The interesting thing about simplex is that (IIRC) the chat protocol is unencrypted and sits atop an encrypted transport protocol call SMP.

That is to say the encryption is divorced from the rest of the stack, and a lot of the hardwork of making it is done.

Of course its going to need lots of maintenance, but the open source community has proven itself capable of maintaining secure implementations of encryption alogrythms.

This is especially true if we continue to take upstream upgrades from SimpleX and strip the crypto VC bullshit out of the codebase.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's not p2p but it is decentralized. It can be forked. Who will do it?