and i also say this as someone who is required to use windows at work. i despise windows, its so much harder for me to use windows given linux been my daily driver for a long time. im annoyed at powershell, explorer, clunky shortcut behaviors, etc just about every second im on windows. its a nightmare difficulty for me, but i also refuse to ever relearn windows stuff. i do remember a time when it wasnt annoying as fuck to use, could be nostalgia or that people just adopt.

using windows as a linux user is a nightmare. but if someone is adopted to windows, the opposite is gonna be similar no matter what.

[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I also use windows for work. Shits stupid. Search in the start bar for an app that's installed on your PC? Let's open edge and show you web results. Want to copy something out of teams? Here's a copilot link you just accidentally clicked. Thanks for accepting that TOS.

I'd love some say on my work computer but alas I'm a grunt.

[–] statlerwaldorf@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The administration tools are just as bad.

I want to add a user to a group, so I bring up Entra and search Groups, too bad it's a Mail-enabled Security group, so now I have to do it in Exchange admin and enable a separate admin role for myself.

I want to disable a device in Intune, so I search for device XYZ in Intune and there's no disable button. You have to figure out who's the primary user on the device, look them up, find XYZ in their device assignments and there's the disable button.

Sure you can do it in Powershell or Graph and hope they haven't deprecated whatever module you were using last week or changed the process entirely.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 2 points 23 hours ago

Don’t get me started with administrating access on folders in Teams and Sharepoint somehow not give a fuck about it.

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’d love some say on my work computer but alas I’m a grunt.

Not a grunt, but still run my work laptop like I am one. I use it exclusively for teams, outlook, office, etc, and nothing else work related though since I can still save to our (non-MS) cloud environment thanks to rclone. Which technically meets the criteria - which has nothing to do with the fact that I wrote the criteria. Totally unexpected benefit! Didn't plan it that way at all. Nope, it was 100% because one of the partners will only use a mac. Promise.

(I'm sorry about your laptop)

[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Haha it happens. I work for a medical software company so they are terrified of HIPPA fines.

So it is what it is. :/

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ah, assurance of compliance (pinky swear promises) over usability.

I once had to use a windows laptop that had to be stored in a safe when I wasn't using it, could only use it in a room that was keyed entry (also where the safe was). But the firewall config was practically wide open, and it had direct access to the internet. I couldn't even change it to be more secure. Ended up not connecting it to a network at all and just sneakernetting a thumb drive around so I wouldn't risk catching blame if something got out.

Edit: Yes, a thumb drive. That wasn't blocked either on this "hardened" system.