I mention this because I think we should evaluate these differently. With a preloaded desktop/laptop, I've had no issues with anyone that actually relates to Linux (except my BIL who was trying to build an arcade stick for gaming).

Explaining to my other BIL how to select hardware for his custom build, that took some time, as did guiding him through the installation.

[–] Banzai51@midwest.social -1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

What are you afraid she is going to have to learn? Where the apps are? You have to do that with a new Windows install. I find people vastly overestimate the complexity of Linux. The UIs have VASTLY improved. I go to the terminal when I want to, not because I've been forced there. Thanks to Steam and their Proton layer, gaming hasn't been an issue. I think there are too many Linux users out there worried they'll lose their wizard status if everyone finds out how much easier Linux is vs how it used to be. Or how most perceive it to be.

I'm a Windows Server admin by trade and have been daily driving Linux at home for almost two years now. I am VERY familiar with the Windows UI, and yes more technical than the average person. Linux on the desktop has been very easy. More people should be giving it a shot as Microsoft makes us jump through hoops to do what we want.

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 2 points 4 hours ago

... what?

[–] Unknown_0671@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

im sorry but LibreOffice might have all the features of word but it certainly has a really bad user experience. i write often and libreoffice writer is difficult to say the least, not because of lack of features but a lack of most 'little things' and 'tweaks'. i can definitely see someone switching to libreoffice from word, but saying its not 'hard' is untrue or a biased take in my opinion and using both suites (more familiar with libre though lmao).

i do agree that for a mostly web based user as is commonplace nowadays, a preloaded linux thats been decently built is gonna be a significantly easy switch.

on a slight tangent, but linux for me was a way to rebuild my love for computers after windows systematically fucked things. and i really enjoy the learning process. so personally i still encourage people to spend the time in the learning process atleast a bit

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i write often and libreoffice writer is difficult to say the least, not because of lack of features but a lack of most ‘little things’ and ‘tweaks’.

I think you're missing the fact that you are doing more 'expert' things than most here. The majority of the time, my wife opens a document she made once, saves as a new file (no, she's not using templates - don't get me started), and writes her invoice. She then PDFs it and sends it via email.

She does the same thing with Calc and a previously made blank "monthly calendar". Opens the blank, saves for the client, enters in the days and renames the month at the top, notes what she'll be doing for them on each day with an hour estimate, PDF and email.

That is the kind of thing most people do.

[–] Unknown_0671@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

ah fuck, i did this

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I think 'writing stuff in a word processor' is something every high school kid did, even if it's generally web based nowadays.

In fact, everyone in this thread has done basically that.

[–] Unknown_0671@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 13 hours ago

thats kinda the thing tho, the person states their wife uses web based. so the offline solution doesnt need to be all-in-one

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was seriously considering posting it but didn't want you to think I was being a dick about it 😀

[–] Unknown_0671@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

appreciated, reality checks are best served plain

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 17 hours ago

No, a nice herbal garnish is pretty nice to have.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 day ago

Yeah, LibreOffice stuck with the old UI/UX for better and worse. Luckily we do have a nice selection of Office Suites in addition to them. OnlyOffice, WPS Office, Collabora, KDE Calligra, Softmaker Office… surely there's one for everyone on Linux.

Personally I like OnlyOffice.

[–] Grumpy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would say give onlyoffice a try. It's not FOSS but does have free tier for home use and it's what I go to for non-main work computer. Beats libre imo.

[–] Unknown_0671@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago

i do use onlyoffice when i have to work with MSOffice docs, its very similar. but the emphasis on AI has irked me too much to make it a regular use