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So many people wants us dead because we wants a better world for everyone (europe.pub)
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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm not spinning anything, you asked a question about communism and I answered, and now you're moving the goalposts to revolution and early socialism.

[–] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
  1. I didn't ask a single question about communism.
  2. The question that you originally responded to was IMO about early socialism and revolution. It assumes that people have something to give (besides labor) and you picked up on that when you referenced robbing.
  3. You've moved the goalposts. First you conceed that yes there will have to be "theft" (your word not mine), then when I agreed with you (while not being so judgey as to call it theft), you pivoted to "no, we only start counting what happens after we've seized power. Everything before that doesn't count" (paraphrasing of course).
  4. I agree with you that if you laid out a timeline and point to where the economy would be reorganized, it comes after seizing everything at gunpoint. Obviously you can't reorganize till you've taken ownership. That doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago
  1. Didn't realize you weren't the original person, but the conversation thread still holds, the original question was:

How do you force people to give according to their ability? What if they don’t want to?

  1. "From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs" refers to communism. It's a direct response to the OP. "From each according to their ability, to each according to their work" refers to socialism and revolution, but wasn't the subject of the OP.

  2. No. I answered OP's question about communism, then it got shifted to socialism and revolution. This is important, as the original question was framed as how do you keep communism going.

  3. Sure.