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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/39088745

Lenovo or ASUS? Trying to figure out which laptop to go with.

Which company has a better reputation (in quality, privacy...), or are they both bad?

EDIT: I have come to the conclusion that both Lenovo and ASUS are extremely terrible, anyone who sees this post should go straight to framework laptop

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[–] monovergent@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Lenovo's ThinkPad line has a sterling reputation. Among the best in terms of quality, service, repairability, and Linux support.

As for the largely consumer-grade options of ASUS and Lenovo's consumer-grade IdeaPads, they're rather similar in reputation and quality. Not exceptional, but they're both perfectly fine options as long as you avoid the budget laptop segment (plastic chassis, broken hinges, etc.)

Any difference in privacy would come down to the pre-installed software, which is irrelevant if you plan on using Linux. If you will be using Windows, it's always better to install your own fresh copy to purge any potential spyware and bloatware installed by the manufacturer. The activation key for whichever edition of Windows it comes with is embedded in the BIOS, so it'll activate automatically after a fresh reinstall.

[–] happeningtofry99158@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@Lyubo@lemmy.ml

I think Lenovo has the worst with their spyware and adware built into their BIOS. Video from Louis Rossmann I have very bad experience with Lenovo's business laptops hardware and software but Asus laptops aren't very different either. Asus' quality control seems to be garbage and their customer service even more garbage. Choose your enemy.

Or go with Framework if possible. ⚙️✨

Don't know if this is true, but I have decided to go with framework

[–] monovergent@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Interesting, had no idea until now that there's such a thing as first-party malware loaded with the BIOS. Admittedly I'm caught in an ivory tower with my Corebooted ThinkPad. Although I haven't purchased one yet, I'd say you made the right choice going with Framework.

[–] Lyubo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Quality and repairable decreased after Lenovo bought ThinkPad from IBM around 2005 and especially after T480 model (T4xx series). In my opinion the newer modes are using the lagacy of the old ThinkPads without being anything like the old ThinkPads except maybe for good Linux support but I'm not sure for the newest models.