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Highly doubt it, maybe a small organisation which would make sense by your comments.
Outlooks feature list is huuge. Large list of functions in Calendering alone is unmatched.
Bollocks.
The API is the backbone for large organisations that extends that large amount of Outlook functions beyond 365 limited services. That is being cut off in an anticompetitive move by Microsoft. It allows for information management and automation to be verified by people with simplicity and a familiar UX.
It's not "bollocks", it's a fact. Lots of businesses that go cloud replace API calls with external apps. People used to do human resources management via Excel and Outlook with macros and plugins, now they use BambooHR or Workday, for instance.
Of course there will also be lots of businesses that don't, but I haven't seen that in the last 13 years of working in the field. And in that time I went through companies as small as 200 users to as large as 180 000 users.
Agreed. Kinda. Email should be email, nothing else. It's not secure enough for anything else. If you want fancy features, get a fancy app that can do them, maybe have it send notifications to your mailbox, that's it.
With this I don't agree. Again, email is email - third party (or custom) software can do these things infinitely better. As for "familiar UX" - come on, it's 2025. If someone can't handle a new UI/UX, they shouldn't be doing office work.
Your claim with the api is outright wrong. The difference is between client side and service only api the rest is hyperbole. That gap is MASSIVE functionally. Client api is responsive, fast, access to local OS and local hardware. Service side has its place, but its service limited only. Severely limits access to other services which is very important when moving data.
You have conflated User Experience with User Interface. I didnt say UI for that obvious reason. The experience matters a lot. Having to open and process the same flow of task from one app to another app breaking concentration is bad fucking UX. Losing context is bad UX the list goes on. it reduces accuracy, & performance and ultimately productivity. Something as simple as classing becomes simple when the context of the conversation is very easy to get and more accurate when you dont duplicate an entire chain.
If it's done right. So, just like an app.
I'm already speaking for switching from Outlook with API to apps, you don't need to sell it to me!
Read this again.
You're advocating for moving data via Outlook. Mate, I hate to break it to you, but this is peak insanity!
UI is integral to US. That's why I mentioned it.
Also: "familiar UX" makes little sense. People don't get "familiar" with UX, the UX is either good or bad. That's why I mentioned both.
Here's the thing: it shouldn't be "teh same flow of task from one app to another". Modern apps tend to encompass the entirety of a process.
That's what ticketing systems are for.
In general: using email for business processes must die just as much as using Excel for a "database".
So you're advocating for slowing process, bad user experience, and duplicating shitty email functionality in every app to receive and send email limiting communications. Got it.
Yes they do. Duplicating email into other systems that doesnt have anywhere near the same functionality and flow as their dedicated email app which is designed for email is frustrating, and restricts communication.
Wtf does classing have to do with ticketing systems. It applies to records management, project management, legal case management, the list goes on. It applies to most business
Oh my sweet summer child. I've got news for you: email is HOW business is conducted. That is not going away any time soon.
Yeah, if you ignore everything I said and invent your own stuff, then this is exactly right.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that you think that email is somehow the peak of UX.
Could you give me an example of a process that's much better handled via API to Outlook than literally anything else?
Wow, these all sound like important things that should definitely not be handled via Outlook. But, again, I might be super wrong - please give me an example, because maybe we're talking about two different things.
Are you from the US?
Good UX.
Already have provided 1 of many examples: classing. Applying a type to the communication relevant to the business. To the process it could be scope, direction, decision ect. This can route, tag, extract, modify and move/copy messages automatically to target services.
Just to be clear I am not advocating for building Microsoft Lotus notes (Teams), not at all. Quite the opposite.
However jumping between apps is how mistakes are made, and evidence lost from laziness or "too busy". IMO Email communications should only be handled by Outlook or a dedicated email client that has the depth of functionality for good communication. Addins provide the middleware between different products and services to integrate them. It can even be completely transparent to the user.
Bringing this back to the topic. The shift to the web only Outlook means no more BYO libraries, no more .net , no more OS api, no more COM api. These provide an enormous amount of capability for addins to leverage and provide integration. Now with website Outlook, the api is incredibly limitted and entirely controlled by Microsoft, there is no BYO libraries and connectivity and those existing web api's can and are removed at whim removing the ability to conduct business on 365.
So if someone can build an app like Outlook that has rich email, calendaring and pure depth of functionality that it has. This would be a massive barrier removal if not in my oppinion the last barrier for mass business FOSS adoption.