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[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why didn't carnists come up with their own term for themselves? Vegans made up a name for themselves. If carnists come up with a term for carnists and market it, vegans will probably use it.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"nonvegan" is common parlance

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 1 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

That's not actually an identifier, it's just the negation of one. It's reductive and incorrect. It would be like if we called straight people nongay or atheists nonchristian. Of course, all three erase the grey area in between: vegetarians, bisexuals/asexuals, and any other religion, respectively.

Can't you think of a word to describe yourself? What is the ideology of carnists in your own words? What unites you, sets you apart from others, and sounds snappy? We'll just have to call you carnists until you fix your branding problem.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago

vegetarians

vegans call vegetarians carnists, too.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

What is the ideology of carnists

there is no ideology. it's is vegans who have the ideology

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 1 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Okay, well that opens up a whole new area of words to describe carnists. You could call yourselves centrists, or moderates, or apoliticals, or nihilists. All good words to describe having no ideology other than conforming to society's norms.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

not-believing your dogma isn't an ideology

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago

nonvegan is already common parlance. most people are not nihilists.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago

Can't you think of a word to describe yourself

human

you don't know anything about me