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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (4 children)

We will do nothing and you will like it.

Seriously, nothing will be done, nothing has ever been done. Politicians don't care, people don't care to protest, so yeah. We're fuxked, and you'll like it

[–] WHARRGARBL@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Responding to a 45 minute video 11 minutes after it’s posted? Try watching it and see how many people DO care, and how many global organizations are collaborating to urgently address reef health.

You can also volunteer or donate at https://coral.org/en/

Or, ya know, remain ignorant and removed about it.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah that is not what I meant.

Governments will not do anything that will permanently fix this problem because it would entail levels that require world wide cooperation to be able to pull it off.

We can't even get our own governments to do a small part to save this planet, I am not holding my breath for anything more than some bandages for the bleeding.

Not being conspiratorial, simply observing that no real effort has been made on way too many issues

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago

That sounds like an excuse to not try anything. We need to push for as much harm reduction as we can, not just give up because a lot of things will die.

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There are interesting dynamics at work here.

You may be right. You probably are right. But you're not certainly right. In that uncertainty lie a wide range of possibilities.

Next, cynicism is corrosive and demobilizing (ask any dictator how powerful it is). By propagating cynicism, you're making it slightly more likely that your own negative forecast will come true!

This is why, personally, although I'm tempted to agree with you, I choose to shut up about my feelings and instead focus on the upside possibilities of what we don't know. Seems like a more productive use of my energy - and at least I'm not making things even worse than they already are.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

I know I'm cynical, and you're right. It's just really rather hard to look at how this has gone over the last twenty years and be expected to hope for more. At best I can hope for not too much less.

[–] Beastimus@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You could just sit back and enjoy it instead of commenting like that.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh I know it's cynical. It's also what it's going to be judging from the past century or so

[–] Beastimus@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I understand cynicism, but not cynicism without nuance.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

And the nuance being..?

Ivet seen this happen over and over, and it always plays out on the same way. A bunch of heroic people will come and save the day, governments will make some half haphazard gesture, and that's it, and next year we'll be in the same shit again. Nothing was done to actually fix the underlying problem, experts were ignored. I've seen this over and over and over and now I see this, based on previous experiences I make a prediction, and you tell me to be nuanced.

How?

I'd love to see it play out different but the simple fact is that the solution requires people to reserve a big cut of all world economies and spend it on repairing the world.

That, in turn, rewuiri politicians that are willing to tell people "hey, we'll have to increase taxes and you'll have to do with a little less". The problem THERE of course is that 90% of the wealth I'd with 10% of the people, so squeezing that 90% of people for money they don't have won't work, and those 10% will get that politician fired and...

Yeah, so you do have a solution, I take it?