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Why did things have to get this obvious before people realized the truth? (piefed.zip)

submitted 22 hours ago by MindfulMaverick@piefed.zip to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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It feels like topics I used to only see on r/conspiracy—like Epstein and the deep state—are now all over mainstream subreddits.

The US is doing what it always has done, only now the pretexts are weaker than ever. Did things really have to get this obvious before people finally realized that western governments only care about what's best for the oligarchy?

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[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 7 points 20 hours ago

From what I can tell the only person calling people 'stupid' so far is you.

If Epstein was 'common knowledge,' why didn't that common knowledge stop him or his associates? I don't think the point OP is making is not that all/most conspiracy theories are real, it's that structural critique that used to be marginalized is becoming mainstream because reality is making it undeniable.

It's okay if you have a visceral reaction to the term 'deep state' but the point is that there are power structures that operate largely independent of democratic control, have repeatedly acted against public interest, and face minimal accountability.

I would point to COINTELPRO, the various CIA coups, mass surveillance, and systematic lying about wars that happens with bipartisan consensus.