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RIP Discord: Self-Hosted Discord Alternatives Tested (TeamSpeak, Stoat, Fluxer, Matrix, & More) (europe.pub)

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[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have previously read that omemo 2 implementation is insecure.

It's not insecure. The origin of that myth is this blog, however the creator deleted a response left by one of the OMEMO developers, which explained that the newer versions of OMEMO were essentially open betas, and that when a final stable release is made, only then should the client developers implement a newer version.

The Blog author's response to deleting that comment was:

“I’ll make an edit later about the protocol version thing, but I’m not interested in having questions answered. My entire horse in this race is for evangelists to f** off and leave me alone. That’s it. That’s all I want.”

Which I think shows it was done in bad faith.

You can read a longer response I left in regards to that here, if you're interested.

there is no one flagship app for XMPP that works cross platefrom and has all features implemented.

The Movim client is installable on all platforms as a PWA, which prevents confusion. But if you use other clients, it is true that they have differing feature support.

heck I can’t even find a windows that support voip. and their will be none.

Movim is that client. It supports Group voice/video calls and screensharing w/ audio share (a recent addition, which currently requires a chromium based browser to share the audio). Sure, it's not a native app, but neither is Discord (it's just another Electron app).

We need a federated solution now, otherwise we'll all just hop to another centralized platform with all the pitfalls that brings.

As for Movim, I hate using web apps. bad user experience in general.

As the video mentions, it's worth some inconvenience for the privacy, and currently there is no other federated Discord alternative besides XMPP and Matrix (and matrix has way too many issues to even consider, IMHO).

The community adopting Movim or supporting it with donations and bug reports will help it develop and become more polished, and there are efforts to standardize a common XMPP package platform to make deployment simpler and easier. The entire landscape for Discord alternatives all have their downsides, XMPP is the only current option that could become a long-term, permanent solution.