So basically most Muslim scholars say piracy is forbidden cause it's a form of stealing. The basics argument is taking anything from anyone without thier consent is morally wrong and haram. If someone makes anything like a book, game or software and he sells it you shouldn't pirate it unless they agree to give it for free.

There are exceptions for that, for example if you need a book or a course but you can't afford it you can pirate it on the promise that you'll give it's honor the money once you've it. Also, concealing knowledge is a sin in islam, so it's permitted to pirate books and courses if the platform had banned your country ips for example or you can't pay because us sanitation or if a state try to hide a boom for example or it's owner refused to share knowledge and decided to not sell his book anymore. but if it's available for sale it's haram to pirate it against it's owner will.

How do you guys argue against these fatwas? Are there fatwas that make piracy halal? Why do you think it's halal if you do?

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[–] BladeFederation@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm not Muslim, though I do have some general knowledge of their teachings. I don't think that this is a topic that can be answered only with scripture, since it was not directly addressed. You pretty much covered the two schools of thought in the topic.

But consider this: Jesus (considered by most Muslims to be a prophet) says in Matthew 23:23 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others."

You see, based on the above, my perspective is that if you are using (any) scripture to justify an action, you're probably doing religion wrong. Personally, I agree with the Muslim idea that knowledge should not be hidden, I think it's an important addendum to simply "not lying". I don't believe in intellectual property as a concept. But...someone or many someones did work for many hours on the end product.

Is paywalling, say, GTA V "hiding knowledge"? I believe in game preservation and all that, but ultimately, no, that's a little silly to say. It's a luxury. An extra thing we do for entertainment, not to better oneself. Is it WRONG to pirate? I don't personally think so (I'm subscribed to the piracy sub) but it's certainly suspect, and at the end of the day we shouldn't be spending too much time on luxuries anyway.

Has the government banned an educational book, or perhaps it simply isn't sold in your region? I would have a hard time condemning that from any perspective, and I think the author of the book in most cases would encourage you to pirate, because they want you to have the knowledge within.

There was a book I was reading about personal internet privacy, and within, he mentioned that many people pirated earlier versions of the book. The author said basically "I can't stop you from pirating the book. Maybe you can't afford it. Maybe you don't trust the value without seeing it first. Just know that I am considering not updating a new edition because I am getting less and less sales. If it ever becomes not worth it, then resources like this will not exist."

At the end of the day, that's what it's about. If you respect the work being done and want more of it, you should pay for it, if possible. If you want more things like that thing, you should pay for it. If you want to prevent further degeneration of art into lowest common denominator slop, you should pay for it.

There are times where pirating (or similar things like adblockers) may be more moral than not doing it. YouTube has a lot of important knowledge that should not be gate kept, but Google is a very immoral company, and so are companies that advertise heavily. Ad blocking is the moral thing, as well as the best from a privacy and security perspective, even the FBI recommends using them. So at the end of the day, it's a complicated topic, but you should consider "what would Allah do in my situation?" If good people create something with their hard work, he would reward them. If it is avoiding association with bad people by pirating, or finding a way to bring knowledge and wisdom to the masses, maybe he'd pirate.

I dont think piracy is that bad, and I don't have qualms about not giving money to mega corporations, especially for content that rarely makes them or the actual creators money years after release. But if you're really worried about morality, the question should not be "is it THAT bad?", it should be "what is the moral line of action in this situation?"