China has been gaining and surpassing you no matter what face was in charge.
As I said, it's cope so you can delude yourself and think it wouldn't be if it weren't for the bad evil man.
Same as the Iran failure.
Where you see plenty americans say they're losing simply bcs of Trump and their super duper invincible military would be in Teheran by now under some other imperialist.
americans are sore losers and can't come to terms that they're being surpassed hard and circling the drain.
With or without Trump.

So the point is quite important, you're wrong and americans sore losers.
You are clearly at the denial/anger stage.
That won't help you.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There's a difference between "still in the race, being surpassed" and "no longer in the race because forfeit."

Before trump, the US still had green energy initiatives. They weren't enough, but they were better than nothing. It still funded science and research. Not enough, but better than nothing.

All of that is gone now. So your attempts to equate "with" and "without" trump is nothing but disinformation, plain and simple.

Where you see plenty americans say they're losing simply bcs of Trump and their super duper invincible military would be in Teheran by now under some other imperialist.

That's not what I see at all. I see millions of americans saying we shouldn't even be involved in Iran. And the fact is, we wouldn't be if it weren't for trump. So again, your false equivalencies are as asinine as they are incorrect.

And I'm kinda fed up with all this shit, so I don't have much patience for it right now. Go tell someone else to chill the fuck out, cause I'm not having any more of your bullshit strawman arguments.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

LOL “no longer in the race because forfeit.”

That's exactly what I mean, "we could win but our leader made us quit". COPE
Trump has been in charge for barely 13 months.
The structure and evolution of scientific growth are a thing measured in decades.
The benefits come much later, it takes years of investing in education and infrastructure, then waiting for generations to get years of that education and finally reaping those benefits when they become professionals.

What you see now is the result of what you did before, Trumps damage will only have an impact later in these fields.
And what you did before was continuously losing ground and being surpassed.
Since a few decades, when Trump was just a TV clown diddling kids and China started investing and educating.

About the war:

Sure half of you don't want this war,it's how your dogmatic 2 sides work. They say this, so I say the opposite, on any issue.
Doesn't mean they don't believe what their massive propaganda and false image of being the world police and superiority.
After all you're americans.

They just can't have their bubble burst and are, as I said, in denial.

And I mean denial as in the psychological definition:

a defense mechanism where an individual refuses to acknowledge, accept, or face an unpleasant reality, fact, or feeling, treating it as if it were not true to avoid anxiety or emotional pain. It acts as a protective, often subconscious, barrier against overwhelming, threatening, or uncomfortable information. *

You manifest the typical flight response to it perfectly BTW:
"And I’m kinda fed up with all this shit, so I don’t have much patience for it right now."

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 weeks ago

Between ignoring everything I said, twisting it out of context, and then bringing in all sorts of red herrings from every angle, you're clearly just a troll and I don't have the energy to deal with you. It would be pointless anyway.

You don't get to be a total dick and then just say people are in denial cause they won't put up with your shit. I'm under no obligation to listen to your drivel.