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Latin "Burgus" (fortress) -> Frankish "burgz" (fortress, watchtower) -> Old High German "Burg" (castle, fortress) -> Hamburg (a city's name) -> hamburger (someone from Hamburg, a type or meat patty from there, a type of sandwich made with said patty.)-> English "burger"( A variant of said sandwich)

Latin "Burgus" (fortress) -> French "Bourg" (small town, historically the fortified part of a town, often more expensive because safer and better situated) -> French "bourgeois" (A person living in the Bourg, a wealthy person, a capitalist)

"Burger and "Bourgeois" are cognates. Eat the rich.

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[–] WaterBowlSlime@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Britain and Spain and Norway and the rest seem to be running their monarchies just fine tho. I think it's been a long time since royal dynasties and capitalists were separate groups of people.

[–] awth13@hexbear.net 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I believe you're making a mistake Rosa Luxemburg touches on in her Reform or Revolution. A capitalist is not (necessarily) a person or a group of people but a manifestation of class division with respect to the relations to the means of production. Bourgeois revolutions across the world did not necessarily eliminate people or groups of people that are part of the monarchy apparatus, rather they eliminated monarchy as a distinct class in relation to the means of production, subsuming royal dynasties into the emergent capitalist class. When I was making my joke, I was thinking of that distinct class.

[–] WaterBowlSlime@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, in other words royals aren't distinct from capitalists anymore so Burger King isn't an oxymoron unless you're using centuries-old definitions.I think we're on the same page here really. Anyway this is kinda a lot of arguing over something simple, my bad. Have a nice gaming day if you celebrate.

[–] awth13@hexbear.net 3 points 5 days ago

Lol sorry we're kind of into using centuries-old definitions here since Marxism is, you know, centuries old. Have a nice day too :3