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Herodotus' account of Cyrus the Great's death at the hands of Tomyris is awe-inspiring, funny, and, I'm lead to believe, almost certainly fake. Other histories paint him as a pretty chill guy who tolerated other religions in his kingdom and expanded through peaceful means. Yet Herotodus paints him as demanding Tomyris' hand in marriage and invading when she said no.

Why did Herodotus do Cyrus dirty like that? Is there any chance he was telling the truth?

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[โ€“] PugJesus@piefed.social 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Communication is hard - even the Persian Empire itself didn't have a single unifying language, and standards for translation were... ad hoc.

If the story is untrue, it may have been storytellers confusing Cyrus with later Persian monarchs or military leaders - Herodotus was writing nearly 200 years after the fact, and the nomadic tribes to the north often did clash with the Persian Empire - sometimes with considerable success. Or it may have been intentional - a boring story about a no-one general or forgettable monarch getting his ass kicked by the Scythians doesn't get attention - but make that general CYRUS THE GREAT HIMSELF, and suddenly the story becomes much more interesting when you tell it 'round the campfire.

And who amongst the great mass of people was studying or verifying history in a time before... uh... well, history? If they didn't have access to the chronicles of the elite - who, themselves, were not always great about keeping accurate records - how would anyone verify what story was true and which was false about an event that happened generations ago?

Prominent figures often have tall tales told about them. Plenty of the exact same trope-filled stories - with serial numbers filed off and names replaced - have been reused and retold as supposed truth from antiquity to the modern day. And we in the modern day don't even have the excuse of limited information at our fingertips!

People love stories. Truth... is often secondary. That's why history as a discipline - sorting out truth from stories - was so novel - and so difficult!

Novel in Europe, I'll grant. Thanks for the answers!