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That accusation could not be more vague lol. I assume you mean october 7 and counter with that the IOF also killed a lot of "innocents" on that day. Probably more, they were firing indiscriminately at all the cars going towards gaza. They ordered helicopters to just empty their ammo by the hannibal doctrine. I mean it's a war, not a war the palestinians started mind you, they're the defensive party. Whatever death occurs is first to be blamed on the zionists who instigated it and who are keeping the native population in concentration camps and ghettos. Whatever mistakes hamas may have made, you have to weigh against what pissrael does. And since hamas is the only movement resisting the genocide it's that or no resistance at all. Who would you rather see prevail hamas or the IOF?
Personally I'd like to see Israel drop their weapons and leave Gaza and all occupied territories, Lebanon, let Palestinians exist and give full israeli citizenship to those who'd want it.
When you have people with rocks and sticks in a fight with a high tech military, I tend to take the side of those with the sticks. That doesn't mean I support everything Hamas is doing, and that everything we hear about Hamas is misinformation.
I draw the line at killing civilians. Hamas does it as well as Israel.
I think you can be pro Palestine without condoning the death of civilians. If Europe and the US stopped supporting what Israel has been doing for the last 60 years, there might be a chance for a Palestinian state. For this to happen, politicians need to speak up: this is what Platner did, so I think it's a good thing.
That's kind of an oxymoron, if the zionist project returned all the occupied territories it would cease to exist on account of not having anymore territory. Also you somehow think that "full israeli citizenship" is something people would just want. The only reason for palestinians to want that is to escape the hell the zionists are creating for them.
No actually everything we hear about Hamas is misinformation. The few crumbs that aren't outright fabrication are so far removed from the context, viewed from a very distinct western lens that they might as well be outright fabrication.
Ah that's a bit of a less vague accuasation. However, you're goomba stomping both crimes as if they're the same. The zionists are genociding civilians. They're actively targetting and hunting civilians just trying to live their life. Hamas is targetting people that are living on their land. The land that was stolen from them. They tried every avenue, the last big peaceful attempt was the great march to return. The zionists killed at least 223 peacefully demonstrating, unarmed civilians.
I do not condone the death of civilians, however I blame the zionists for the necessity of armed resistance. They deliberately are putting settlements close to the border, deliberately moved the nova music festival there in order to maximise civilian casualties so they could then blame Hamas for killing civilians.
I do not understand why you think Platner, the guy that loves killing so much he joined the army and went on several tours in order to do that, is anti-Israel.
Every "Israeli" is also IDF.
True! This is also often overlooked, conscientous objector are remarkably few. There are a couple of sects that are exempt from draft for religious reasons, but those exemptions are being contested as well. But the vast vast majority of zionists in the occupied territories that are of age are or were active participants in the genocide and can be called upon as the armies reserve.