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The UK government claimes panels could help homes "significantly cut" energy bills.

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If a few individuals did it, no. Plugging in a 200 watt source would be equivalent to unplugging a 200 watt load. That's the equivalent of turning off 4 incandescent light bulbs. I think I might have seen the power grid handle that kind of "disruption."

On the other hand, imagine if 100 million people go out and buy 100 watt solar panel kits. The load on the power grid is going to vary by a gigawatt every sunrise and sunset. A city in which a million people have 100 watt panels will have to handle a variance of 100 megawatts every time a cloud rolls over town.

At the individual level, what concerns me about the "panel you plug into a normal outlet" form factor is that it breaks a bunch of fundamental principles of the power grid, like "sources of power should be sockets not plugs, so that it's at least nominally difficult to touch live wires." Having a source of power on the load side of a circuit breaker further rustles my jimmies. I think the only thing that's going to stop them from causing problems like overheating wires in walls is the practical limit on panel size.

If you're going to plug solar panels into the grid this way, they're going to have to be well engineered or they're going to hurt someone. You don't want to own one of these if Big Clive has a lot to say about them, and since most of them are going to be manufactured in China...just expect an increase in residential fires as more jurisdictions approve them for use.

[–] LemminNewbie@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Unless a line side service tap how else would you connect it?

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Something I would approve right now is a solar panel that plugs into the wall, and then a device plugs into the panel. So functionally the panel is an extension cord that generates a little bit of power. It would only power things down stream, wouldn't put anything back onto the grid, but if you have a load that's continuously heavier than what the panel puts out, like say a refrigerator, who cares? It powers the device from solar and makes up the difference from the wall.

I have a device that does exactly that with the addition of a big honkin' battery. It can power devices entirely independent of the grid, function as a UPS, and it even has time of use functionality. If you've got variable rate power, this unit can be set to run on battery when power is expensive and recharge when power is cheap, while blending in solar as much as possible. It won't put power back on the grid so it's already UL listed and as far as I'm aware it's already legal everywhere in North America (I have the US model with NEMA 5-15 sockets) as we speak.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Honestly the way we design our electrical distribution system is bonkers for the modern world. Every home should just have a big battery in it. Recharge the battery from your own panels when you can, top off from the grid when you can't. Neither the solar system nor the grid power connect directly to the load. Everything goes through the big battery buffer.