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[–] homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, again, God can't be created as then he wouldn't be God

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Same with jod. Also, jod created god.

Since we're all just making shit up here. You haven't proven anything you are saying. My baseless claims are just as valid as yours.

You better not disrespect jod. You don't want to go to turbohell, do you?

[–] homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This would require God to be created, which is a logical contradiction

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No, it's not logical to believe that god exists at all.

[–] homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Wrong question. You are the one making the positive claim that god exists.

Why should anyone believe that?

[–] homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

one of the.multiple reasons is the principle of sufficient reason

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

But that's human bullshit.

We don't know that everything needs a cause.

We don't know that infinite regress is impossible.

And if everything needs a cause, so does god.

[–] homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

God exists on a completely different plane than we do, his cause is himself as to be God, you need to be perfect and rely only on yourself.

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 points 12 hours ago

God exists on a completely different plane than we do

Special pleading. God seemingly only exists in human heads, he's imaginary.

his cause is himself as to be God, you need to be perfect

"Perfect" is human bullshit. Would you like to define "perfect" as you're using it here? Have we ever observed anything perfect?

and rely only on yourself.

Like the universe itself seems to do, no god required.

You keep repeating the same fallacies: god of the gaps and special pleading. Philosophy is not evidence. Philosophy is "if what I'm saying is true, then what I'm saying is true." But there is no evidence verifying the premise or the conclusion. Anyone can make shit up, it's not impressive.

You claim god exists with no evidence, specifically citing the unproven idea that everything must have a cause. Oops, right, everything except god, because he's special. What's stopping me from claiming god was created by Jod? Why don't you believe every unproven claim ever made? Do you believe in unicorns? Leprechauns? Fairies? If not, why not?

[–] homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Denying the principle of sufficient reason would mean that you do not have a sufficient reason to know whether your knowledge is defunct or not. Thus, if we deny the principle of sufficient reason, knowledge and truth cannot exist

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 points 12 hours ago

you do not have a sufficient reason to know whether your knowledge is defunct or not.

No, we use evidence. Observable evidence. "I think gravity exists." We experiment. We demonstrate it. We can use it to make predictions. It goes from hypothesis to knowledge even if we don't completely understand the underlying mechanics of it.

Thus, if we deny the principle of sufficient reason, knowledge and truth cannot exist

What a stupid thing to claim. I reject the PSR because there is no evidence for it. None of my other knowledge magically disappears as a result. If there was no truth, we would not be conversing right now.