Asklemmy

Completely and utterly masturbatory. The reality is that the US is extremely polarized politically because the living standards are collapsing. There are basically two competing narratives for why that's happening, and people subscribe to one or the other. The democrats and republicans have fundamentally different world views, so nobody is going to be swayed by the debate. People subscribing to each respective view will hear what they want to hear.

People who will vote for Harris are the ones who think that the dems have been doing a good job for the past three and a half years, meanwhile people who aren't happy with the way things are going will vote against them or stay home. It's that simple.

24 comments, zero about the American/Israeli genocide. Stay classy yanks!

Trump looked more incoherent this time than in the previous debates, what with the "immigrants are coming to eat your pets" line and other zingers like post-birth abortion nonsense. There were also some weird moments where he said stuff like "Kamala hates Israel," prompting her to go off on her undying loyalty to Israel.

Harris was overall more presentable, but had some horrible policy moments, such as repeating debunked claims about sexual assault on October 7th as she restated her undying loyalty to Israel (which could materially cost her Michigan as Muslim voters are turning to Stein and Cornel West over Harris), or stating that Climate Change is an existential threat in one breath and promising to never ban fracking in the next, along with bragging about gas production.

Overall it's a clear "win" for Harris over Trump if we are purely measuring debate performance, Harris looked far better and answered more coherently, though her environmental positions, immigration positions, and foreign policy are far to the right of where they should be, especially concerning swing state polling.

That is, of course, ignoring my personal disdain for liberalism and both candidates in general for being far-right, this is purely an analysis of the debate within the context of the election.

two hitler-particle-emitting politicians sitting on a mountain of corpses, arguing over who can make the pile grow faster. so, par for the course as far as american elections go.

I hate them.

Bread and circuses for the twoo believuhs, mostly. Excelsior ig

This is the funniest shit I've ever seen.

I knew Harris would wipe the floor, but this is incredible.

The immigrants are eating our pets\s

Hes gonna lose, so not a bad thing.

I can't believe that these are the best two people that the US can produce right now.

Trump started off coherent, but ~30% in he went of the rails.

Kamala on the other hand looks like she has no strong values, she doesn't seem like a Dem candidate. What kind of Dem candidate is pro fracking? Kamala honestly seems disingenuous.

Trump on the other hand didn't form more than 20 complete sentences, so I can't really call him disingenuous because he doesn't seem to stand for anything

Kamala is the best version of a normal politician fighting against Trump. It remains to be seen if that's enough, because he's just so goddamn weird that it's difficult to even compare Tool A to Problem B.

I think she's incorporated virtually all of the strengths of any of her comparable peers, and almost none of their weaknesses. I think that, given the nature of the opponent and his total lack of seriousness, she said everything I would reasonably hope she would have said during this debate.

I also think that I don't properly understand the collective psyche of the American electorate. I don't understand how the election could be this close, when it is a choice between a serious, competent, passionate, talented professional, and a man who is literally a collection of all of the worst possible traits a person could have. That it could come down to such a narrow choice is a mystery for the ages.

Your racist grandpa vs an ivy leaguer who brags about having a small business owner in her life during the debate (she grew up with a nanny)

Also jesus both of them trying to outracist eachother. Kamala might be beat on the home front but she makes up for it on the world stage with the israel comments.

Kamala says 'Trump is gonna pull us out of Nato' and Trump says 'Kamala will make the US Venezuela on steroids'. I dont know why each candidate is trying to convince me to vote for the other

ABC gave Trump a massive handicap but he still managed to shoot himself in the foot a few times. Even the moderator roasted him once or twice.

I am here for transgender alien prison surgeries

The moderator are giving Trump so much time. They won't control him at all.