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[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 181 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

So...it's a fucking fine, which way less then he made by doing this. Until throw these fucks in jail this shit will continue.

[–] staircase@programming.dev 60 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

In the next phase of the legal proceedings, due to begin on 4 May, the attorney general’s office will seek additional financial penalties and court-mandated changes to Meta’s platforms that “offer stronger protections for children”, said Torrez.

The design feature changes the state is seeking include “enacting effective age verification, removing predators from the platform, and protecting minors from encrypted communications that shield bad actors”.

Unclear how age verification would play out with their Digital Childhood Alliance efforts.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 65 points 3 weeks ago

I promise you whatever happens it won't be good for the rest of us.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 20 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

And that shit is why I'm hesitant to endorse these big tech lawsuits

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Until throw these fucks in jail this shit will continue.

Which is exactly why that won't happen. Our president is a pedophile. There's a whole network of wealthy pedophiles who no longer have an island. The pedophiles are in power.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

who no longer have an island

*who now have a different island that we don't yet know about.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

NO!!! NO NO NO NO NO!!! They can't just Jurassic Park this thing, and just have an infinate amount of islands!

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[–] randompasta@lemmy.today 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Fine based on % income of the company.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 11 points 3 weeks ago
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[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 88 points 3 weeks ago (23 children)

"The design feature changes the state is seeking include “enacting effective age verification, removing predators from the platform, and protecting minors from encrypted communications that shield bad actors”."

Oh fuck right off.

I'm sorry but this is a bad "think of the children" decision. There are limits to what Meta or any platform can do about bad actors at that size without structural changes.

What might actually help: only show people content from groups and people that they follow, preferably in chronological order, rather than suggesting new groups and pages algorithmically all the time and thereby increasing the likelihood of children interacting with strangers on the Internet.

And improve parental controls for children's accounts. I'm sure there's nothing currently giving a "parent" account high level control over a "child" account, but I'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong.

But also: require intercompatibility with other platforms and a standardized form of profile data export so people can leave Facebook but stay in touch with the people who still use it.

[–] lmmarsano@group.lt 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

And improve parental controls for children’s accounts. I’m sure there’s nothing currently giving a “parent” account high level control over a “child” account, but I’m happy to be corrected if I’m wrong.

Parental controls already exist in every major OS, they suffice to restrict & monitor social media, and they go unused.

A better solution might be for laws to provide parents resources & incentives to parent children's online activity (including training to use resources they already have) & to provide children education in online safety & literacy. Decades ago, federal courts citing commission findings & studies recommended these alternatives as superior in effectiveness, meeting government duties to minimize impact on civil liberties, allocation of law enforcement resources, etc. For the permanent injunction to COPA, the judge wrote

Moreover, defendant contends that: (1) filters currently exist and, thus, cannot be considered a less restrictive alternative to COPA; and that (2) the private use of filters cannot be deemed a less restrictive alternative to COPA because it is not an alternative which the government can implement. These contentions have been squarely rejected by the Supreme Court in ruling upon the efficacy of the 1999 preliminary injunction by this court. The Supreme Court wrote:

Congress undoubtedly may act to encourage the use of filters. We have held that Congress can give strong incentives to schools and libraries to use them. It could also take steps to promote their development by industry, and their use by parents. It is incorrect, for that reason, to say that filters are part of the current regulatory status quo. The need for parental cooperation does not automatically disqualify a proposed less restrictive alternative. In enacting COPA, Congress said its goal was to prevent the “widespread availability of the Internet” from providing “opportunities for minors to access materials through the World Wide Web in a manner that can frustrate parental supervision or control.” COPA presumes that parents lack the ability, not the will, to monitor what their children see. By enacting programs to promote use of filtering software, Congress could give parents that ability without subjecting protected speech to severe penalties.

I also agree and conclude that in conjunction with the private use of filters, the government may promote and support their use by, for example, providing further education and training programs to parents and caregivers, giving incentives or mandates to ISP’s to provide filters to their subscribers, directing the developers of computer operating systems to provide filters and parental controls as a part of their products (Microsoft’s new operating system, Vista, now provides such features, see Finding of Fact 91), subsidizing the purchase of filters for those who cannot afford them, and by performing further studies and recommendations regarding filters.

Adult supervision, child education on online safety & literacy, parental controls & filters are more effective at less expense to fundamental rights. Governments know this & conveniently forget it.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

What actually might help: hold people who design these tools criminally liable. Everyone knows what they are doing but you can't really say no to your employer because "don't worry you're not liable" so everyone continues on building the Torment Nexus.

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 79 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Putting this in fixed-width for scale:

This ruling:                        375,000,000
Meta valuation:               1,618,000,000,000

This isn't even a slap on the wrist; it's a fucking rounding error.

[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 54 points 3 weeks ago

Phrased in another way, it's equivalent to if you had $1,618 in the bank and were fined $0.30.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 weeks ago

Super small compared to their income, but a GREAT reason to make all the users age validate.

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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 64 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The jury ordered Meta to pay the maximum penalty under the law of $5,000 per violation, totaling $375m in civil penalties for violating New Mexico’s consumer protection laws.

Meta: I guess I will only be able to spend $79.635.000.000 on my next useless venture.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I'ma bet that they spend 10 million of that 79 billion on bribes to change the law so this never happens to them again.

[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

What, do you think they are going to have to bribe 1,000 senators?

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[–] Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 56 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Facebook made 200 billion in revenue in 2025.

https://stockanalysis.com/stocks/meta/revenue/

They were fined $375 million. They averaged $550 million per day last year.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So the fine was basically paid by Lunchtime on January 1.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 47 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Good! Remember though, fines don't count anymore, only hard time. Remove some years from these fuckers lives and they'll think twice in the future.

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Do I have to remind everyone the ending of The Wolf of Wall Street?

Tap for spoilerRich people go to ricb people prisons that aren't really prisons and are better than your house.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I don't really care which prison they go to, as long as they also get leased out to do dirty, dangerous, back-breaking manual labor like every other Federal 13th Amendment Labor Slave. Grab that shovel, Inmate 4547.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 35 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

jury finds firm misled consumers over safety and enabled harm against users

If I do something like this, I go to jail

WHY THE FUCK IS ZUCKERBERG NOT IN JAIL?

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 15 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Because limited liability corporations were created to avert liability from individuals. His firm is liable, but no single individual within it.

Not even the ones making the executive decisions, despite their near-monarchic power. I guess since they're appointed by a board of directors, it's something like an electoral monarchy, except the board isn't democratically elected so it's a plutocracy by proxy. The ultimate culprit would be - and this is a chorus you've probably heard a thousand times on here - the shareholders, and going after them is hard. Particularly when the shareholders are themselves corporations...

But the CEO is the pin focusing shareholder intent down into decisions and ultimately action. If they were effectively held responsible for their decisions, it would at least provide some counterbalance to the shareholders' demands. It could also solve the "shareholders are corporations" issue, since you could make the CEOs of those companies liable for demanding illegal measures from companies they control.

Of course, such a drastic change would be hard to actually push through, as things stand, since it would inhibit (illegal) profit and growth and "the economy" is a sacred cow. It's still worth pushing for, in my opinion, but building awareness and support takes patience and tact to avoid pushing people into political apathy.

The alternative I could see (and would prefer, but suspect to be even less attainable) is to dismantle the stock and capital system entirely. What you'd replace it with is a whole separate debate I won't cover in this comment. Drastic systemic change is difficult to plan and enact, and building and maintaining the new system is difficult in the face of insecurities, old habits, unforeseen challenges that it may not yet have developed effective ways to deal with and generally all the growing pains that come with new things.

They're not mutually exclusive, and the first may be a step on the road to the second. Either way, public support is key, and that is rarely won quickly.

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[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

You can't put a shareholder in jail, they're the entire point of the system gestures broadly

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[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh no, "child protection" was never about protecting children? I am shocked, shocked

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, so I'm holding off celebrating this "historic win" for protecting the children.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 24 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, part of the court's decision was that Facebook wasn't surveilling people enough.

The New Mexico court heard how Meta’s 2023 decision to encrypt Facebook Messenger – its direct messaging platform, which predators have used as a tool to groom minors and exchange child abuse imagery – blocked access to crucial evidence of these crimes.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

Fine Zuckerfuck his entire net worth AND Meta. He's poor now.

Now, let's take a look at Musk, Bezos, and Ellison.

[–] moustachio@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Enough fines, open a criminal investigation and throw his ass in prison.

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[–] BlackCat@piefed.social 22 points 3 weeks ago

Meta has generated high volumes of “junk” reports by overly relying on AI to moderate its platforms, investigators said. These reports were useless to law enforcement, and meant crimes could not be investigated, they said.

shocker.

[–] TwilitSky@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

You mean we shouldn't have put our children's safety in the waxy grasp of a sentient Annabel in a t-shirt and jeans?

[–] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

It says Google will already fight the lawsuit and zuckerberg wants to as well, lmao and he says he wants to protect children but he won't even admit fault with victims? Asshole. There's literally a docu about it: Molly vs the machines.

The two companies probably have to pay more than 3 million dollars. In the next phase of the trial, the jury examines the so-called punitive damages. These are additional damages, intended as an additional penalty.

And because of this instagram will also remove end-to-end encryption and add age-verification

The New Mexico case also raised concerns that allowing teens to use end-to-end encryption on Instagram chats — a privacy measure that blocks anyone other than sender and receiver from viewing a conversation — could make it harder for law enforcement to catch predators. Midway through trial, Meta said it would stop supporting end-to-end-encrypted messaging on Instagram later this year.

Regarding the encryption decision, a Meta spokesperson told CNN that, “very few people were opting in to end-to-end encrypted messaging in DMs, so we’re removing this option from Instagram in the coming months. Anyone who wants to keep messaging with end-to-end encryption can easily do that on WhatsApp.”

-- https://edition.cnn.com/2026/03/24/tech/meta-new-mexico-trial-jury-deliberation

In May, Judge Bryan Biedscheid is slated to hold a trial without a jury on the state's claims that Meta created a public nuisance that harmed state residents' health and safety. The state will ask Biedscheid to direct Meta to make changes to its platforms, including adding effective age verification and removing predators, it said Tuesday.

-- https://www.msn.com/en-us/crime/general/meta-ordered-to-pay-375-million-in-new-mexico-trial-over-child-exploitation-user-safety-claims/ar-AA1ZkHhq

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

If you're still using Meta spyware in 2026 and think you're getting true E2E without a backdoor, I've got a bridge to sell you.

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[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

The New Mexico court heard how Meta’s 2023 decision to encrypt Facebook Messenger – its direct messaging platform, which predators have used as a tool to groom minors and exchange child abuse imagery – blocked access to crucial evidence of these crimes.

Encryption! These monsters!

In the next phase of the legal proceedings, due to begin on 4 May, the attorney general’s office will seek additional financial penalties and court-mandated changes to Meta’s platforms that “offer stronger protections for children”, said Torrez.

The design feature changes the state is seeking include “enacting effective age verification, removing predators from the platform, and protecting minors from encrypted communications that shield bad actors”.

And when that happens, the headline lemmings here will call it enshittification and call for even harsher rules.

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago

Any links to Epstein are entirely irrelevant.....

[–] TwilitSky@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You're telling me we shouldn't have trusted a sentient Annabelle doll in a t-shirt and jeans with the safety of defenseless children? Is THAT what you're telling ME!? ... Well, yeah, actually, that makes a lot of sense.

[–] darklamer@feddit.org 10 points 3 weeks ago

So they want us to believe that the company that knowingly profited from genocide in Myanmar also knowingly profited from child exploitation? Really? OK then, I can believe that.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago

So why do managers who ignore staff warnings always get off Scott free?

[–] FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

If we can keep getting these assholes in front of juries, maybe something will change.

[–] brem@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Go figure, a company that exploits habits is found guilty of exploiting children....

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