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SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY FUCKIN' EASY DECISION.

As a former soldier, "warfighter" is the stupidest fucking word I've heard in my life. It makes me think the speaker is a profound idiot every time I hear it. This might be the first time I've read the word — and it is just as stupid as ever.

That's not a "dilemma." You don't commit war crimes. You absolutely have the right and the duty to refuse illegal orders

I'm not saying it's easy, but it is simple. Disobey illegal orders.

Ah yes the nazi dilemma.

We solved that one in nuremberg. How is it even a question ffs

aren't they illegal orders?

placing our warfighters on a path of no return

Can we go back to calling them soldiers?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fragging

Oh yeah, a real head scratcher

They know the rules, and several elected officials reminded them in video messages that were very controversial.

They are walking into this with their eyes wide open, knowing the entire world is watching. If they accept those orders, and carry them out, they know it will not be forgotten, they will be punished for it eventually. They deserve no mercy if they follow that path.

They are going to automate weaponry so soldiers never face a moral dilemma and get in the way of the war machine.

Is is legal to commit war crimes in the United States? Because if it is, this becomes an ethical argument rather than a legal one.

Thanks you fucking maga idiots. We all told you what was up and you ignored us.

Minneapolis trials with public hangings or no justice no peace

Pedophile orders you to commit war crimes for which you know you eventually WILL be judged...

Mmmmm, that IS a tough one...

How is this a dilemma for the US military? They are going full on war crimes, who's gonna held them accountable anyway?

Polio needs to catch up in that shithole... Polio or whatever, the US are a threat to the whole world.

The orange cancer won't be here forever. You commit war crimes, you will find yourself on a very unpleasant trial.

Grow some fucking spines. You commit these war crimes on the demand of a pedophile rapist felon, then you deserve the same fate. You will be a disgrace, a pariah.

There are plenty of brainwashed talibangelicals in the military who will happily push the world into global war at trump’s command.

Everyone with a functioning brain-cell knows that Trump is going to throw kegsbreath under the bus to save himself, and I for one can't wait to see his smug slick backed face hung for war crimes.

I bet all those big macho MAGAs are breaking down the doors at the recruiting office, riiiight?

Airplanes and ships firing mechanisms break down all the time, like toilets on aircraft carriers.

He’s probably gonna chicken out again anyway.

Officers now have to decide whether or not to commit war crimes? Wow, that is a dilemma, I wouldn't want to be forced to make that decision. This article does a really good job humanizing their struggle, you can't help but feel bad for them.

Its not a hard choice, don't commit war crimes

"Truth, honour and the American way!" means that soldiers should disobey trump's orders and stand up for their country.

This was always going to be the case.

These types of articles are annoying at this point -- the sort of appeal to morality things, based on essentially dead 'world order' concepts. Even when there was a quasi functional set of agreements in place, America just veto'd any attempt to hold it accountable anyhow. International law, or any law really, is largely based on some sort of 'force' that gives it authority -- in a country, that force is generally the state/police, and internationally it was generally the US-lead coalition of western nations. That authority died in 2025.

We've already seen the USA/Hegseth drag all his generals into a room and tell them to not be 'burdened by rules of engagement', encouraging them to commit war crimes openly in order to instill terror in others. Anyone who disagreed with his speech was basically shown the door. This was like a year ago even, it's not 'new'.

The USA basically shredded any moral dilemmas/debates in the process, and burnt the soft power they'd been cultivating for decades/generations in early 2025. What's the point of saying it's wrong based on an old, defunct system that they've already abandoned? If anything, the American right wing will likely cheer that they're getting these sorts of angsty pearl clutching responses from the left / foreign liberal powers. Trump quite literally bragged about America's war crimes in Venezuela during his state of the union address, cracking jokes to which all the republicans laughed and applauded. Trump's threats about Iran's civilian infrastructure, and the bets on whether he'll drop nukes -- these are things that the right wing / Americans want to see happen. They think it's right to do it.

So really, the article shouldn't be about "Oh No!! International Law may be violated!", but rather, "Why should people care about international law being violated, when they've already asserted that they disagree with that law and its results?". Like if/when Trump drops nukes on Irans civilian power plants/water desalination plants etc.... what then? Is there some sort of accountability that's gonna suddenly show up? Prolly not.

You gotta be pretty low on the evolutionary ladder to obey orders from a felon rapist pedophile with dementia.

See the thing is is that you should be afraid of the consequences when you lose. Following illegal orders = war crimes.

Saluting the Commander and Thief of the US military for trying to claim the "#1 child killer" title.

Also has Congress rubber stamped this shit?

I've had people tell me that the soldiers firing missiles or piloting drones don't necessarily know that it's a kindergarten they've been ordered to obliterate, and sure I can see that being the case, but don't they see the reports later? And then go back to work and bomb the next thing they're told to?