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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 208 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Lunch debt? The fuck outta here with that dystopian nightmare shit

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago

It's the first stop on the way to slave labor.

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[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 172 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Christ empowered his followers to clothe the naked, feed the hungry and tend to the sick. For some reason American Christians have decided that these explicit dictates should he ignored, much like the reminder that it is not their role to judge, so that they can instead focus on bigotry.

[–] otterpop@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Every movement in history has hypocrites that follow it, and give the movement a bad name. Lumping "American Christians" together and then judging them based on the worst people who adopt that title is creating a straw man.

All American Christians that I know try and follow what you pointed out in your first sentence.

The statement on judging however is a bit misguided, Jesus didn't say to never judge, but to be careful to avoid hypocrisy and to judge with love.

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[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 58 points 1 week ago (35 children)

That's pretty much the entire history of Christianity.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's really not.

The corrupt nature of the Church as an institution exists to take advantage of the naive humanitarianism of its fellowship.

People, by and large, do want to help their neighbors and provide for the young and the elderly. Modern prosperity gospel Christianity and historical Catholicism/Protestantism hasn't change human nature. People in the church still pursue benevolent goals. It only pollutes human perception and education, by misallocating resources intended to improve society.

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[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 125 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

State doesn't pay for kid's lunch. If parent can't afford kid's lunch, state takes child and places them in a foster home. State pays foster home many many times the cost of lunch to take kid.

Tell me what the goal of this system is so I can call someone else a conspiracy theorist for a change.

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

May I introduce the Victorian concept of Children in Workhouses.

That's where you're heading.

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is EXACTLY what they want. They sell the cute ones (check the protective services website, they have them listed for placement like a weird dating service or pet adoption site). They will prison to pipeline the rest while working them in "skill camps".

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

CPS is a dystopian hell. I advocated for a child for a while, they would fuck up absolutely basic things, would not find out about things like hospitalization or legal trouble for weeks. When I brought up several months of basically no mental health care, they insinuated that I might be abusing the child.

They won’t take action on actual abuse. It’s Kafkaesque.

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[–] Spookyghost@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago

I'm betting it's a 'hungry kids yearn for the mines earlier' sort of thing

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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 95 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Kids go to public school during lunchtime. Public school feeds the children lunch (something with real nutritional value that we would all want our kids eating). Kids do not pay for this. That's it. There should be no further discussion here. If you disagree with this I want to put my thumb into your eye socket in the worst way. It's so fucked up this is even a topic of discussion.

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl -4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I agree with that kids should be fed, but what's wrong with homemade sandwiches? That's what is the norm in NL and if kids don't have them theaters notice it and will work on fixing it while given them food.

The shit we had at most schools I went to was well kinda unhealthy crap.

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[–] Subverb@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (4 children)

They're the future of our country and society, and legally required to be there, but we won't feed them.

'cause 'merica you fucking commie.

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[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 72 points 1 week ago

"You might be giving your kids a terrible childhood, so we're going to ensure they have a terrible life starting in our first-class foster care system"

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 67 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Punishing the poor for the crime of poverty.

How typically conservative.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Do the schools actually have the authority to do that or is it like all those other empty threats I use to get? It's insane, but not surprising that the schools would threaten that. The sort of family who has to skip on paying lunch debts also doesn't have means to talk to a lawyer.

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Luzerne County's manager and child welfare agency director have written the superintendent, insisting the district stop making what they call false claims.

Yup, empty threats made to impoverish families.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

" for neglecting your child's right to food"

So you (the district) agree that right exists? Either you're not providing food and thus you're doing the neglecting and also they don't owe you anything, or you are required to provide food regardless of payment because you're in loco parentis during the school hours. And the $450 could very likely have been used to provide food and other necessities for those kids before and after school.

If you want to charge them with neglect, you have to prove they neglected their child, not just your budget.

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago

Kids having lunch debt is the most American thing I've ever seen.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago

Starve your kid or lose them. That's quite a choice for a poor parent to make.

My late father grew up in an orphanage because my grandfather was too poor to care for 5 kids and a sick wife. My grandparents were able to take the kids home on Sundays though, so it wasn't a situation where they yielded full custody. I'm not saying an orphanage was ideal, but it's a shame that these days there is not the same kind of middle ground where kids can be cared for but still stay connected to their family. I guess that is too much of a social safety net for conservatives to tolerate.

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Who made this warning?

I need a name

Because that has nothing to do with debt, putting kids in foster care wound only cost the state even more money

That is only about unbridled power and control

Absolutely delusional

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[–] slingstone@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So it's too expensive to provide school lunch, but not too expensive to completely take over the care of the children entirely. More and more, I understand what people mean when they say the cruelty is the point. This makes zero goddamned sense.

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 43 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How the fuck is that supposed to fix anything? It's easily cheaper for the state to pay for their lunch.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Homeless people turn into cheap prison labor super easy. And foster kids become homeless so fast.

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[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

But why oh why aren't people having kids?!

[–] M137@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I highly doubt that image represents the food US kids get in school. It's too healthy and good looking (not saying it looks good, just better than it actually would be).

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