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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 hours ago

With the switch 2 coverage, this is something that bugs me quite a bit.... Not the meme, Nintendo games, by comparison, are worth more than the slop that Ubisoft craps out. No matter how good a Ubisoft game could be, Nintendo has them beat in terms of quality.

Back to my point. The cost of games is insane. The price point for most video game systems is around $500 USD. Whether PS5, Xbox, switch, whatever, they're all either at or near, $500.

You buy 6 games, and you've spent more in games than you did on your console. The fuck is this? We might as well go back to the days when you would buy a whole ass console that could only play a single (or small selection) of games like the Coleco Telstar.

I think they figured out that you make money from selling the add-ons, so they dipped the price of the console and jacked up the cost of all of the games so they could increase profits and shareholder value.

Oh wait.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Oh just wait until Nintendo shits out another half baked pokemon game that looks like a student project from 2005 and watch all the man children that think being obsessed with pokemon is a personality triat pay $90 for that shit.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Yes but consider:

A: Nintendo games are actually good, not a pile of crap

B: It is actually true that games have not been keeping up with inflation. Is the same reason why GTA 6 is waiting for launch. They really want to sell that shit at 100 USD or more

[–] Snoopey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Okay I get this but there's a big difference in that Nintendo games are generally excellent

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

It's like comparing a hot dog made of shit vs actual quality food.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 21 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

And Nintendo lawsuits going after grandmas.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Not only that, Ubisoft is actually the only one so far who has spent more money a full legal team to go against anyone who dares to do a honest review of their latest pile of dogshit, namely, ACS, than they spent in the development of the game itself

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 97 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

also, at least ubisoft shit goes on sale, and the used copies are less expensive…

for nintendo, once in a blue moon the game will have a 10$ discount and that’s it

[–] MECHAGODZILLA2@midwest.social 3 points 2 hours ago

I really miss the Nintendo Selects, but I’m pretty sure those died with the digital push.

[–] Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

I bought Immortals: Fenyx Rising for about 8 bucks the other day while it was on sale. Honestly great value, I've already put in 30 hours and I'm not even halfway finished with it

[–] yonder@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago

I bough Farcry 5 for around $10 CAD a few years back and that's about how much value I got put of it.

[–] yoshisaur@lemm.ee 188 points 22 hours ago (7 children)

The amount of bootlickers I'm starting to see in Nintendo's YouTube comments is pathetic

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Pay to use hardware button that offers 10 FPS pre-skype era fidelity is totally a good thing to show off, and Nintendo has totally never been the only company to notoriously harass, litigate, and shutdown mods, tournaments, homebrew. emulators, fan projects, and literally anyone who so much as so glances at their Intellectual Property.

Utterly delusional

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

It's funny you guys think these are actual fans and not bots bought through a marketing campaign

[–] viopercus@lemm.ee 28 points 17 hours ago

They are the equivalent of Disney Adult

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 66 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Same for AC Shadows. "You don't have to buy the cosmetics!" Motherfucker every single bit of content should be in a game that you paid full price for.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 28 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Its Todd's fault.

Fucking horse armor.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

no it's the customers. though once we ridiculed Bethesda for horse armor, people now fork over 20, 40, 100 dollars for a fucking skin. I'm sorry is an overwatch skin supposed to be worth a third of a full game? yeah I bet it took two years to develop it.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago

... You're right.

People get abaolutely addicted to mtx, and at this point, you'd have to societally treat mtx, and legally regulate mtx like cigarettes, to actually address the problem.

Todd may have... invented the potion, or uncorked the bottle... but way, way too many people just keep gulping it down.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 47 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

The Nintendo fanboys/girls are the real, true, 'winners' of the console wars mindset, the last holdouts.

Almost nobody really gives a shit anymore to tie their personalities to Sony or MSFT... because basically, console exclusives don't really exist, and almost everything is on PC as well.

But Nintendo? Nope. The company still holds a death grip on their inhouse titles being exclusive to their consoles, and the nostalgia/stolckhom syndrome is apparently the strongest with the Nintendo crowd.

It took almost a decade for people to finally be able to admit that GameFreak is basically incompetent. You could not say that even 5 years ago w/o a deluge of insults and arguments and special pleading.

The cope is strong with these ones, Nintendo would never hurt them without a good reason for doing so.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 hours ago

I'm holding out to see what Mario Odyssey 2 looks like, because I'm a sucker for Mario games.

[–] _____@lemm.ee 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Nintendo titles are on PC. See: emulation.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 11 points 18 hours ago

I mean, yes, but you need a ... fairly out of comparable price range to a console, pc, to be able to emulate ... most wiiU forward games? depending on specific game, your definition of a playable frame rate?

I was trying to mostly focus on the 'console wars' aspect of the whole thing, and how official releases that were console exclusives a decade ago on an Xbox or PS... basically those all just come out on PC a few years later now, though there are a few exceptions to this, I think.

Bringing emulation into the discussion makes the comparison exceptionally complicated, because PCs vary so much, in so many ways, and of course the legal ... dark gray area, and how its often considerably more complicated than just plug and play.

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[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 35 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (4 children)

I will admit: I'm in this picture.

Game developers have to eat, too, so a (!) price hike at some point was expected, the price for AAA games was set to 60$ before smart phones existed. They only stayed at 60 so long because gaming got much more popular in that time, driving sales. IF (!) this increase would allow developers to pay their employees more and eliminated the crunch culture, I'd have no problem with it.

But we know this is just corporate greed. Pay extra to own your game physically, pay extra to play your old games, join our subscription program. Oh, you're in Europe and your wages kept up with inflation? Forget the 33%, you can afford a 50% price increase instead.

With the Japanese-only model being the singular exception, you'd think the direct was lead by 3 new faces just so Nintendo could put the blame on them when the thing doesn't sell well due to the price.

Oh, and Skull and Bones was dog shit, of course everyone hated it's ludicrous price point.

[–] Shirasho@lemmings.world 32 points 19 hours ago

As you alluded to, the developers will get exactly 0% of the profits from that price hike. Games today are very profitable at $60. The problem is that execs are eating into those profits before pissing the rest down to the developers. There is also a really shitty tech bro culture that many game studios have, decorating their studios with overpriced and expensive tat which should have been spent on employees.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 10 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

You know the tariffs mean the Switch 2 may actually now cost $600, not $450, right?

You gotta pay the club membership fee before you can pay for event attendance.

[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Oh I know. Would suck to be American right now 😎.

I instead get to pay a converted 98$, 50% more than Xenoblade X or Brothership cost here...

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

By odd coincidence you just named the most recent two games that I purchased.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 10 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Ah, my American is showing, assumed you were 'one of us' lol.

Apologies.

But uh yeah... we are completely fucked lol.

EDIT: I still can't wrap my head around how basically every American Asmongold viewer right now must be tying themselves in even more mental pretzels to avoid comprehending how they voted for the guy that just made not only video games and hardware instantly 30% more expensive, but also basically everything else they need to buy/pay regularly to keep their 'Being a Living Human Being' battlepass going.

I just cannot grasp how stupid these idiots are, but there are somethingn like 100 million of them.

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[–] accideath@lemmy.world 13 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Eh, there‘s some truth to either one. Game development is expensive and pricing hasn’t kept up with inflation ($60 in 2010 are almost $90 today). But also, games are ridiculously expensive at full price, especially in todays economy and especially if they’re as badly received as Skull and Bones, while Nintendo games are at the very least usually pretty decent.

I’d recommend voting with your wallet and only buying games on sale or used. Just wait a little. (Or pirate them, if you can live with not supporting the developers at all).

[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

"games are ridiculously expensive at full price"

A board game with paper and plastic pieces can range from 12-45 dollars

People will go spend $20 at the movies for 1 night

Hell I'll pay 100 if it's a good game

I have 1200 hours in Overwatch. $60 (free now). I have paid 5 cents per hour to play it. I am completely happy with my purchase even though it's free now.

If the game isn't worth it, don't get it. But to complain about it is ridiculous.

Some N64 games were $50-$60 dollars back in the 90's

I feel like we are fortunate

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 15 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

What are "saleries?" Something to do with sales?

[–] childOfMagenta@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago

Celeries. One needs to eat.

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 11 points 21 hours ago

At least Skull And Bones is a AAAA game smh my head

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm a big Nintendo apologist. I've argued in the past that their consoles are the only ones worth buying over a gaming PC (not including Steamdeck there), and while I have never defend their terrible IP practices, I have been willing to overlook it and continue buying their products. This shit is indefensible. The price hike would be bad enough, but killing off physical games is a disgrace. Nintendo fans should be angrier than everyone else, not defending this shit.

[–] ftbd@feddit.org 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I've always felt the other way around: If you're trying to sell me games, make them for PC. I'm not buying a new device just for Mario

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I actually like Nintendo's devices, though. Sony and Microsoft produce basically the same product every generation, but Nintendo usually tries something different. But $80 games with no physical option is fucking disgusting. I'm pretty sure they've decided that physical media is a threat to their abusive IP practices, and their going to finally destroy game preservation once and for all. This is the final straw for me; I'll just pirate anything I want going forward.

[–] ftbd@feddit.org 1 points 3 hours ago

Don't get me wrong, I dislike other gaming consoles too. Why would I buy a device that I don't really own, i.e. the manufacturer can pull the rug from under it at any time and render it completely useless? I get your point about 'innovative' designs. But then they should sell the device separately and allow the user to with it as they please (see steam deck).

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