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[–] grue@lemmy.world 269 points 1 month ago (5 children)

"Sideloading" is anti-property-rights loaded language.

The correct term for installing something by means other than the Google-approved method is "installing normally."

It is the act of capitulating to Google's control, due to the incorrect belief that you need its permission to use your own property how you want, that needs a new term. So far all I've been able to come up with is "cuckloading," though I'm not happy with how sexism-adjacent it is and am open to suggestions.

[–] Archr@lemmy.world 64 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Might be easier to come up with a specific name for installing something from Google. "Google loading" maybe.

The we just go back to "installing".

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Walled-Garden-stalling?

"A googol steps to add an app"

Authoritarian-stall

Package Micromanager

Daddy Google's allowances

Controlware / Slaveware / Theirware

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

"Google loading" isn't derisive enough. The example I came up with isn't quite right, but I do want it to have that same feeling of being a grave insult. Maybe something like "simploading?" Or "dipshitloading?" "Brownloading" (think like "brownnosing")? IDK, I'm just spitballing here.

[–] cheat700000007@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

I was thinking bitchloading. Cause you're their bitch.

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[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 144 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Awww... Uncle Google just wants what's best for me! So what's the harm in getting into his van? What's the worst that could happen?

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 112 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

And now we know this "reporter", Patrick Campanale, is a bootlicker

[–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Let's not jump to conclusions! He just might really be this stupid to believe these claims.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Let's punish both types in the same manner to make them both stop.

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[–] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 100 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Patrick Campanale, you're a spineless corporate shill and I hope one day, you will pay for that spinelessness

[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

The comments on that article seem to agree with you.

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[–] cybernihongo@reddthat.com 80 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The majority of people

Stop using such shit excuses. Keep Android Open!!

[–] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

The majority of people are stupid. Who would have thought.

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[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 21 points 1 month ago

The majority of people have 2 arms. So why bother with prosthetics or research into biofeedback?

See, it's flawless logic /s

[–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 79 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"Sideload" is such a dumb name for what is just the act of installing apps of your own choosing.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

May as well call it "jayloading" 😒

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[–] Pipea@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

You're missing the point. It is "just" the act of downloading and installing, which were seen as normal things to do. However, by calling it "sideloading" they can then attach any meaning, any implication they wish. This is now something different and wierd, not something normal people do, does your mom sideload? I'm pretty sure the battle for control of your phone that you bought was lost as soon as we allowed them to call it sideloading.

[–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

I'm not missing any point at all, your post is in essential agreement with mine, lol.

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[–] Draconic_NEO@programming.dev 75 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

With arguments like those that person already seems like an astroturfer IMO. Also sideloading is the language corporations used to delegitimize decentralized app installation.

[–] Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 67 points 1 month ago

The classic "you are too dumb to choose" if only education was a thing...

We are at a time where governments and corporations actively dumb things down until they can make this excuse, instead of actually doing what is right for the people, which is investing in education and treating people as intelligent and autonomous beings.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 61 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also, it locks alternative sources to the Play Store out. How convenient, right?

[–] quantumvoid0@programming.dev 22 points 1 month ago (10 children)

grapheneOS wont be affected by this so, atleast we dont loose all hope

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[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 59 points 1 month ago (16 children)

Indian accent: "Alright mam, when you install this app, I will contact you tomorrow and we can proceed with the transfer. For security reasons, don't tell anyone you received this call."

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 21 points 1 month ago

Right, the real solution is not letting old people answer phone calls anymore, I guess, lol.

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[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 51 points 1 month ago

The problem is this is already being used to do political censorship so any restriction on what users can install on their device is harmful, because it's not just weird nerds but people need to use other apps like ice watch

[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 1 month ago (3 children)

As someone who replaces "core" apps with FOSS alternatives, the 24 hour wait is quite a punishment.

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are there any real statistics about the real number of scams deployed via "sideloading non verified apps?"

I do not know the number. But I don't think there are that many cases. Most scams I've seen have been via web or via a normal app downloaded on the appStore.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago

Scams require some level of idiocy, complacency or distractedness to pull off. If you're going out of your way to install non-standard apps you're likely paying enough attention not to fall for it.

If youre getting a mark to install something on their phone, you'd probably have just as much luck getting them to sent you a Western Union cheque.

[–] jbrains@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)
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[–] Archr@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can get behind a delay to enable side loading and the warning screens are nothing to me since I can just click past them. Though the delay should be more like 30-60 minutes at the most.

The real problem is requiring devs (even outside of the play store) to identify themselves. That is ridiculous and does absolutely nothing to secure the device for the user. (It only secures it under Google for their interests)

[–] elvith@feddit.org 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I mean I get the idea of the forced restart and the general waiting time - assuming a scammer wants you to install a "side loaded" app, it will disconnect their call with you, of they're calling you on that phone. Same for a waiting period that forces the scammer to either hang around on the phone with you for a long time or to call again some time in the future.

But 24h?

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[–] newton@feddit.online 35 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Everything on my grapheneOs is sideloaded,

[–] grue@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Everything on my GrapheneOS is installed normally, by which I mean "however the fuck I want".

Fuck allowing the act of exercising your rights as the owner to be demonized with bullshit loaded language!

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[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

Sideload deez nuts

[–] Mesa@programming.dev 23 points 1 month ago

I thought surely this was a joke. ... I thought.

Sent from GrapheneOS

[–] anyhow2503@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

The opinions of a christian youth pastor who loves claude code.

[–] idriss@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago

Patrick you should go fuck yourself, you are not different from that low life systemd age field PR asshole

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I prefer package managers & installing software to locked corpo market bullshit loading

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why would it first help people and then hurt them?

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[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 12 points 1 month ago (4 children)

What kind of apps are there that "typically" need to be installed "urgently"? Sure I can work around the delay most of the time (and be at worst annoyed out of my brain by it) but that's not how a user experience is meant to be designed, is it?

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[–] someone@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

Bruh screw android and its updates, it fucked up and it keeps getting worse, its updates are very occasional, at least if they were worthy then fine i'm with ya, but no, they are just junk, they slow down my phone and are many times buggy; it keep restricting users and developers under the term of 'security', go fuck ur security, I know what I'm doing, either gimme full control over my property or fuck off. This is MA phone NOT urs!

When I get a new phone, I'll either find a way to get an old android version like v10, or just find another system.

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