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Michelle Walker, who is of Jewish ancestry, says the organization that runs the community, Return to the Land, discriminated against her by denying her the opportunity to buy land based on race and religion. Walker is married to a Black man and has biracial children, her lawsuit says. She’s seeking unspecified damages, including punitive damages.

I'm dead, lol. This is rage baiting on another level. At least she got a lawsuit out of it.

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[–] BozeKnoflook@lemmy.world 74 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You have to be someone who identifies with your European heritage and ancestry.

Meanwhile I, an American living in the Netherlands, encounter black people on a daily basis that speak better Dutch than I ever will.

I mean, of course these people are fucking morons, but it's also pretty telling that their view of what is European is insanely whitewashed.

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I mean, of course these people are fucking morons

For a second I thought you meant the black folk you meet in the Netherlands and I was legitimately shocked at the open racism. This is what I get for opening Lemmy as soon as I wake up, before I've even gotten out of bed lol

Also, teach me your ways. How do I move to the Netherlands‽

[–] BozeKnoflook@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ahhh fuck now that I read it in that way I can totally see it lol!

I moved using the Dutch-American Friendship Treaty; basically start and run a Dutch business that employs yourself and sponsor your own immigration. It was the only valid path I had from the US -> Europe, and it's actually surprisingly easy if you're capable of being self employed. My business went well for a while until my main client screwed me over but now I have a regular highly-skilled-migrant visa which requires a Dutch company to hire you and sponsor your work visa.

I think it's a wonderful place in it's in own right. If I compare it to where I used to live I question why I didn't do it sooner.

[–] nixfreak@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

Yep I agree, love Netherlands, seriously thinking about moving. My friend that lives there now keeps bugging me to move there.

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I know Google exists and I'll go to research on my own, too, but as someone who's been through the process, can it just be any business, or does it have to be a minimum value company before you can do it? Any general advice?

[–] BozeKnoflook@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The IND (Immigration & Naturalization Department) has pretty good docs online and in English: https://ind.nl/en/residence-permits/work/residence-permit-self-employed-person

Not just any business; IIRC lawyers & doctors are restricted, and prostitution isn't allowed. Although if you bring a spouse they are allowed to work without restrictions, including prostitution... if that's your/their thing.

There's no minimum "value" or income requirements at first (though if you want to get renewed at the two year mark you'll need to demonstrate the business is doing at least something), you basically just need to put 4.5k euro in your business' bank account and never let it go under that base 4.5k.

General advice: read everything you can; what I just wrote is ~3 years old and could have changed since. I paid an immigration attorney to handle my & spouse's application something like 1k euro and think it was well worth it. Shipping stuff by boat usually comes with a minimum space purchase, which also means a minimum cost of 5k (again, few years old on that reference...). Most electronics aren't worth bringing due to the AC/DC difference, though I disassembled my desktop and brought everything but the case and power supply in my luggage on the plane.

And lastly, if you are seriously considering it, learn the language. I can't stress it enough. This isn't just a two week vacation, you will eventually need to interact with dentists, doctors, repairmen, delivery people, etc, who probably speak great English but it isn't guaranteed -- especially if they're older or if you live outside the randstad. I know some fellow Americans here that barely know any Dutch and it makes everything feel more difficult for them; even basic knowledge helps a lot if you're on the train and you hear an announcement "the rear of the train is staying at the following station and going back, if you wish to continue further move to the front cabins"

Avoid Duolingo, it used to be good but it's all AI-enshittified shit. I recommend Busuu, and when you feel like it's starting to make sense do some actual lessons. "NOS Journaal in Makkelijke Taal" ("NOS Journal in Easy Language") is good to watch; it's a 8-ish minute news report of the day in simple and (usually) kindof slowly spoken Dutch. Just keep watching until it works.

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

I'm sorry it took me so long to reply. Your comment was so thorough and well done, I wanted to be able to devote to it the time it deserved, and ADHD brain turned it into one of those things where text on a screen frightens me for some reason XD

This is honestly fantastic information, and I have at least two friends I'm sending it along to as well. Thank you for such a well written response and guidance.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

To be fair, I'm sure there are a lot of fucking morons with better Dutch than mine will ever be. (I speak zero Dutch.)

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah but I have 0.000001% Irish roots. Basically Irish at this point.

[–] BozeKnoflook@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Ah, I see you've met my mother.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If I finally run out of fucks to give, might go out there, stand up some Baphomet statues, run a weekly hootenany

[–] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 20 points 1 week ago
[–] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Who had "Whites Only" and "Arkansas" on their instant-win bingo card?

[–] LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago

I had never heard of this place before Dan Cummins talked about it on the Timesuck Podcast like 2 weeks ago. Good listen if you want to learn more.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

She's Jewish, married to a black man, with mixed race kids. She's hears about this "whites only" community, and immediately decides that's the only place to live.

And her kids say "Aw, Geez, here goes Mom again."

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 week ago

To live in the community, Orwoll told CNN: “You have to be someone who identifies with your European heritage and ancestry. You have to celebrate traditional European values and we get those values from our religious documents within Christianity, within Norse paganism.”

Wait, Norse isn't christian. Wait a minute, the Norse were burning christian churches in the 90s!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Norwegian_black_metal_scene

“We value our heritage, not just because that’s our race and we’re all about skin color, but also because we care about traditional European music and art and European history, and we want to raise our kids in an environment where all of that is celebrated, not attacked.”

Your religion is from the fucking desert in the fucking middle east, my guy. It was spawned by a jew who went against the establishment in Rome. I'm an atheist and I promise you that I know more about the history of your religion than you do, you stupid racist fuck. Also, Jesus was probably brown, dickhead.

[–] Azal@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago

Having grown up in Arkansas, the thing that surprised me the most was that this wasn't near Harrison.

But it's in the Northeastern Corner near Pocahontas, yup, still makes sense.

[–] elevenbones@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ooh boy I really want to live there with the racists but they won't let me
😾

Those homes are made wood. They are flammable.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 week ago

Apologies for double-post, but I got sidetracked when I read the article. What really needs to happen is a targeted campaign of harassment. Violence is not something I advocate, but I understand it.