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[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 82 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

I keep saying it, you don't need trucks. Maybe 1 out of a thousand. No, that isn't you.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 49 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

And out of the people who do need them, vans are still a much better way to go for many of them. Vans which have at least a margainally better field of view with their short, sloped hoods.

[–] VinegarChunks@lemmus.org 39 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I have a large family and we drive a Transit 350 van.

One day we needed to move a pair of beds and mattresses. We asked my father in law to help us since he has a F150. But it soon became apparent how much more we could fit in the van (with the two back seats removed) than we could fit in the truck, which couldn’t even fit one mattress in the truckbed without hanging out the back of the tailgate.

From what I’ve seen my van is far superior to a truck in almost every need I’ve had. It can carry more stuff and it can do so in the rain keeping the cargo dry.

The one thing a truck could do that my van can’t is pick up a scoop of mulch or gravel dumped from a loader.

[–] kevin2107@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

bro pulling up with the sprinter, how many bitches you fit in there?

[–] VinegarChunks@lemmus.org 8 points 3 weeks ago

It officially fits fifteen. . . passengers. But normally we have two seats removed for cargo space. So, 13

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[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I know someone who insists that a pickup truck is more practical and her example is "you can lift a bookshelf over the side of a pickup truck instead of having to put it in the back like a van". Apparently it's more practical to lift something like 4 feet off the ground to the side of a pickup truck bed instead of like 1 foot to the floor of a van

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And those who actually need them would be far better served by a VW Transporter with an aluminium bed.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This is true, but there's also a real lack of small pickups on the market. The fuckers just seem to be getting bigger and bigger. I used to have a Proton Jumbuck and it was really useful. Used it a lot for hauling wood and soil, it was small enough to get around and park easily in the city. I got rid of it eventually because it was so hard to find parts, shame, it was a handy little machine.

[–] BigJohnnyHines@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

It’s super frustrating because if you talk to anyone in a blue collar or rural area they all tell you they wish they still made small trucks. The manufacturers keep upping the size and cost adding shit nobody even asked for.

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[–] OS2Warp@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

1 out of a 1000? Don't be silly, way more people than that have inferiority complex.

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Tell that to every dipshit in the US South...light kit, brush guard, spray in liner, knotted tires, extra fancy box in the back, and a pristine winch. The dirtiest it's ever gotten is when it rains

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 50 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

The best way to kill a person and get away with it in the US is to hit that person with a SUV when they are walking. A jury of lifted truck owners will return a not-guilty verdict. Even better if the target is on a bicycle, you’ll get a pat on the back by the judge.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Or worse, motorcycle!

-seethes with rage at the very notion of vehicles with less than four wheels-

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 42 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Not being able to see someone walking in front of you is a god given right.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Doubly so if they're a toddler.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to protest at an abortion clinic because killing children is immoral when a woman does it.

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[–] Steve@startrek.website 41 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I saw a chart that showed a much stronger correlation with smart phones

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (14 children)

Why not both?

If phones are causing more collisions... then bigger vehicles have more kinetic energy, hence more deaths...

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[–] iknewitwhenisawit@fedinsfw.app 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think that we see the same increase in pedestrian fatalities in other countries though, which do have smart phones but do not have massive personal trucks.

[–] iknewitwhenisawit@fedinsfw.app 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

In Europe:

In the US:

Not exactly the same years, of course, and comparing data sets is tricky.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

The minima at 2009-2010 is absurdly clear though. You undid 20 years of progress in about 10 years. I'm honestly shocked - what happened in 2009 to cause this? I would think increasing truck sizes would cause a much more shallow minima, since truck sizes don't suddenly increase from one year to the next.

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[–] Rothe@piefed.social 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

Sadly this is spreading everywhere. It's a race to the bottom because no one's adult enough to step in.

I don't get it who needs this car. I drove suzuki swift for 3 years and it was plenty of space gor 2 people and I'm 1.9m tall even. I don't even understand how people enjoy these giant cars - it's so uncomfortable, you can't even u-turn. And parking?

You don't even get the niceness of high seat because hoods are so giant. You take a van or something and at least you sit high with good visibility but thats not what people buy.

Truly weird.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 weeks ago (43 children)

No more inexpensive cars for the masses. No one is building a sub-compact or a sedan anymore. Now I have 300 "options" I don't even want on a vehicle and no way to get out of paying for them. Driving is becoming more of an upper-class activity nowadays and we all know how size matters to that crowd.

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[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Its ok though, we had to get rid of popup headlights because "oh no pedestrian safety". But classify fucking everything as a light truck and you can do whatever the fuck you want.

[–] Yaky@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

Instead of headlights 2 feet off the ground, now we have overpowered searchlights (brighter = safer, amirite?) mounted 4 feet high, guaranteed to blind pedestrians and any shorter vehicle's driver.

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[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I have a F150 I use as a farm truck, and an old samurai. (The little 4x4, not the feudal warrior) The samurai is lifted and has larger tires on it, and the hood is still still only about waist-high. Much lower than the F150's hood which is almost chest high. (Im 6ft tall, that's ~183cm)

The F150 is honestly not very useful for hauling, because the sides of the bed are armpit high. Heavy things must be lifted a few feet to get up on the tailgate when its open. Most of the time anymore I use the samurai to pick up things like animal feed or fertilizer or other heavy bags of stuff, because it won't get stuck in the yard like the truck will, and its just more fun to drive, all 65 horsepower of it.

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

But the f150 is much more gender affirming to cismasc people, you misandrist cisphpbic piece of shit.

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[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

I was standing in front of a parked SUV the other day and I swear its grille was chest-high. I'm 5'4", I'd definitely not survive if one hit me.

Some years back, a couple of my friends drove Toyota Rav 4s. They were cute little all-wheel drive cars with three doors. This article tracks how the Rav 4 "evolved" into the ugly, massively bloated vehicle it is today. https://www.carwow.co.uk/toyota/rav4/news/8854/toyota-rav4-generations-evolution

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

And that giant truck has never hauled anything beyond kids to games and groceries.

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[–] vinyl@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I wanna vomit especially when I see carolina squatted pick up trucks or really any pick up truck that isn't actually used for their original purpose.

[–] Ageroth@reddthat.com 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Pavement princess is my favored term for trucks that clearly have had work done but do no work.

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[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That, and the tiny distracted driver machines in our pockets and dashboards

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Frontovers is the highest growing category of accident. They're happening because people can't see small children over the hood of their emotional support freedom truck, orphan crushing model.

Yes, cell phones but mostly lack of visibility.

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