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[–] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 90 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I am entirely convinced the flat earth movement consists of 90% pranksters who are doing it for shits and giggles and 10% bona fide contrarian retards who falsely believe they’re in good company.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think it's more like 10% grifters, 90% dupes.

[–] peripheralneuropathy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What's the grift angle? People make money believing that shit?

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (7 children)

There's a small industry of flat earth influencers.

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I work with a guy who is convinced the earth is flat and space is fake and all the governments know it and that's why planes aren't allowed to ever fly over Antarctica or something.

But even that guy jumped off the trump train.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

But even that guy jumped off the trump train.

top kek

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I worked with someone who seriously claimed that covid was produced by 5G towers, and also was a con by the government so they could inject nanobots into our blood via vaccines. He was never able to see the contradiction.

He also relieved that if you speed in a rental car for some reason the police cannot pull you over. Boy was he wrong.

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[–] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I lol'd. We all have a coworker like that. Hell, he's my supervisor.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe started by pranksters then grifters realizes that can sell fake books and fake stuff like some fake tool that pretends to prove some false assumption

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i think you have the percentages wrong but the groups right. more like 1:3 pranksters:dipshits

also, would you mind using a different word than retard? i don't particularly like being grouped with flat earthers.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 64 points 1 week ago (3 children)

And he also learnt how to hold his phone horizontally. Truly a journey of self-discovery.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Hiis shift in perspective was multi-layered

[–] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Truly the better improvement of the two. Death to vertical filming!

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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

So I guess it’s either hold your phone flat or the earth is flat, but not both. The orientation change when he changed.

[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (19 children)

I'm a flat spacer, I think spacetime is flat, continuous, and homogeneous therefore ensuring any finite arrangement of energy is occurring infinite times in any direction you can point. Is there an atom for atom replica of the earth, it's entire history, and me? Yup, infinitely many in any direction one can point, along with all other finite arrangements of energy.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think that makes sense mathematically speaking. To turn the state of a group of atoms into numbers that can be represented by a random experiment, one would need to use continuous (i.e. non-quantized) variables. A continuous variable can take an uncountably infinite number of values, so it can't be modeled by a countably infinite arrangement like the one you've described. It's kind of like how you can choose real numbers at random for all eternity and never get the number 7.

[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Reality isn't continuous, at least as far as we are aware. Past the plank scale at least our models don't work. Infinite information to encode everything seems like it would all just collapse into a black hole immediately so having some limit somewhere makes sense at least in that way.

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[–] Delilah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 week ago (4 children)

What happened 6 months ago to show this man the light?

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I’m pretty sure that’s one of the guy in the Netflix documentary about flat earther. Over the course of the documentary he design with one of his friend an experiment … and the documentary end with him looking at the results and questioning his beliefs

It’s a shit documentary but there’s some insight (not because the director is brilliant, because he don’t know what he’s recording) into the conspiracionists psych

Anyway that meme is old, pre covid

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you're talking about Behind the Curve, that was a brilliant documentary.

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Agree to disagree. The only thing it does was to preach to the already convinced.

You cannot reason anyone out of a position they did not reason themselves into.

[–] Supercrunchy@programming.dev 7 points 1 week ago

I think it was not meant to convince anybody out of being flat-earther. It makes a fool out of them, but also it shows that there are humans behind the movement and their motivation (they went down the wrong path and got indoctrinated by the wrong people, and are now isolated by everybody else). I started the documentary thinking thar they are all stupid, and ended it feeling a bit sad about them and understanding a bit why would anybody continue to be part of a group spreating such an obvious lie. They really need some friends outside that group, support and some good education... the flat earthers and many conspiracy theory groups would have already died out, if society did not treat these people as a lost cause. It also explains indirectly why even some very intelligent people do fall for other conspiracy theories (like qanon).

I think it has changed how I would talk to a conspiracy theorist in real life, and I think it's great that it managed to do that.

I was hoping to enjoy it but those fuckers were so fucking sad. No lives or friends. No measurable accomplishments.

Spent fucking several grand on a silly Lazer experiment.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] xxxb@feddit.org 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

wait the meme works in reverse?

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago

🧑‍🚀🔫🤡🌍

[–] elfpie@lemmy.eco.br 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)

First video: I saw the light, don't be fooled by the lies they tell you.

Latest video: I saw the light, don't be fooled by the lies they tell you

Whatever generates more profit is what they believe.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The conspiracy theorist YouTube space is oversaturated and it's difficult to generate new content when you don't really have anything new to bring to the table.

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[–] rangber@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

If you generate more profit by aligning with reality, I'll say go for it

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Don’t quote me on this, but I think this guy was one of the people who went to the Arctic to see a 24 hour sunny day and actually accepted the evidence

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Flat earth is one of those things that's so ignorant that I don't even get mad at them. I just feel sad for them.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

The only issue I have with flat earthers is the arrogance. The rest is ignorance that we can deal with if they allow us.

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

I also like that his views increased as he became more aware of the bs he fell for.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

woah. i never see this. like as a former cultist, your typical response is "not my circus, not my monkeys" (even if it is your circus and your monkeys. I wish i never started that whale cult)

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Whale cult? Sounds like story time 🍿

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There's this big whale statue in Utah and I started a joke religion about it. Only some folk took it seriously. Like I wasn't even in Utah

Edit this whale

It was a running joke for the weekend on an alumni website and then I didn't hear anything about until I read this article

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I think Mark Sargent has quietly figured it out, but he makes a living being the "flat earth guy", and doesn't know what else to do with his life.

What really surprised me about Behind the Curve was how smart a lot of those guys were.

[–] Hasherm0n@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

The smarter someone is, the better they're able to rationalize what they believe. Admitting one is wrong isn't usually a matter of intelligence, it's a matter of pride (or money).

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[–] KulunkelBoom@lemmus.org 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Applauded for pulling his head out of his ass. Good news America - we've failed.

[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Better than keeping his head up his ass. Conspiracy groups can often also be part of community and identity. Changing your mind, therefore, might mean losing a social circle and possibly status that you thought to have. He probably though that he was smarter than 90% of the population, and now he feels like an idiot.

In that scenario, this is the best outcome and it should be applauded. If we don't reward people for escaping and admitting their wrong, then they could easily get trapped. Why change your mind when it means that nobody likes you anymore and everyone thinks you're an idiot?

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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Anyone that can learn from their mistakes and take in new information that was against their initial beliefs is worthy of praise.

[–] Erna_muse@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is the problem with gossip or idle chatter. Things you think are jokes or just weird culture is actually seeding by psyops or con men.

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