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[–] llamatron@lemmy.world 157 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (16 children)

I've worked in IT for close to 30 years and I've never met anyone with a good word to say about Oracle. I remember them being notorious for auditing their customers and nailing them to wall for even the slightest perceived infraction of their convoluted license agreements. I don't understand how they still exist.

[–] Mikina@programming.dev 50 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

JDK is the greatest scam ever.

When something needs JDK, most people usually just download the first one they find without much thought, just like with any dependency, which is Oracle's, instead of OpenJDK.

Oracle will go after companies where their employees unknowlingly installed their JDK for some minor thing, and hit them with multimillion fine for breaking their license after a while. Or at least I remember hearing they used to.

Blocking anything Oracle company-wide, especially JDK, is the first thing an IT admin should do.

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[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 26 points 5 days ago

Yes but on top their software is clunky and lacks basic usability?

[–] dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 1 points 2 days ago

I interviewed with them a few years ago and the dev I talked to said it was the best job he ever had.

That was the only time I ever heard anything positive about Oracle.

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[–] Kurtismayfield@lemmy.zip 19 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Imagine failing this hard at your job and keeping it.

And I know his job is to keep the stock price high.. but 28 percent growth over the last five years in tech is still failing at your job.

[–] Bieren@lemmy.today 6 points 4 days ago

“Double digit YoY or get out. Doesn’t matter how many people you have to fire or how hard to exploit the ones you keep. Double digit or GTFO.” -Shareholders

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[–] comador@lemmy.world 170 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Couldn't happen to a better group of companies. Let them all beg for bailouts and be denied.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 152 points 5 days ago (3 children)

and be denied

Maybe under a sane leadership, certainly not now. Trump will give them a bailout and a shipping container full of "deported" teenagers.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 55 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Even Obama handed out bailouts like candy. No chance this admin doesn't.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 27 points 5 days ago

I mean that’s one of the big draws of capitalism right? Much of the state’s power is derived from its elite oligarchy and their industrial contributions, in exchange for basically having a blind eye turned to anything they want.

When you allow structure of such importance to exist as a business, you balance your house on toothpicks.

Therefore, you can allow them to snap and tumble your whole home down a cliff; or you can treat them as part of the state (but, only when they need it. To keep up appearances.)

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[–] CoriolisSTORM88@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago (31 children)

While I agree with the anti Oracle sentiment, that’s 21,000 employees that didn’t say they wanted AI BS. The suits and ceos that do this aren’t the ones that pay the price. It’s always the ordinary people like you and I.

[–] CovertOperative@piefed.zip 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There should be a law that if more than x% of the workforce is laid off, the entire C-suite has to go too.

[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Here come a lot of x%-1 layoffs!

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 25 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Yeah no they’re 100% gonna get bailed out. All they have to do is kiss the ring and they’re golden.

But fuck all of us, I guess.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

Fire Larry and sell his stock and his yachts and you'll be in the black again.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 70 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Start forcing users to use AI
lose staff
Fire staff so that AI can take over
lose staff
Find out AI can't replace the users, get devalued
lose staff

seems pretty toxic

[–] Cheebus@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

My last day at a dumpster fire AI slop company is next week, and I can’t wait.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 112 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I used to work for Oracle and this pleases me. Nobody should have to work for Oracle.

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[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Imagine. Oracle not being relevant. The dream

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[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 24 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Why does Larry Ellison give me such crazy uncanny valley vibes?! Is his head too long? Moustache too narrow? Generally too smooth? It has fucked me up all day scrolling past this image.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Plastic surgery and fillers are supposed to give him a youthful appearance. Instead it makes him look like a fucking blow up sex doll.

[–] nodiratime@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

First time I saw him I thoughr he looked like John McAfee.

New incredibly niche conspiracy theory just dropped

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[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why is this news for a site like Jerusalem Post?

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

because everyone else already posted this 6 months ago

[–] irish_link@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No matter how much I try, all I see in this picture is Mel Brooks as President Skroob sniffing Air out of a can.

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[–] mereo@piefed.ca 60 points 5 days ago (11 children)

Chinese open-source models are becoming the norm. You don't need the latest model from ChatGPT (e.g., a Ferrari) to complete your task. A simple Honda will suffice (open-source models), and it uses a lot less energy since it runs on your home or company's infrastructure.

Because of that, I predict that we're going to see a lot of financial hardship among AI companies.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

bet they woulda been fired even if ai was generously adopted

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Are you americans ready for the bailout? Open your wallets wide!

[–] sanitation@lemmy.today 7 points 4 days ago

I too see it coming.
email/call your reps pre-emptively and say no bailouts

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And this was after they fired about 30,000 employees.

[–] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So now they HAVE to double down and fund this AI infrastructure, because sunk costs dictate that they can’t admit to a bad decision and hire back the terminated employees.

Just because it’s costly doesn’t mean they aren’t going to push forward with all their might, unfortunately

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[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Fucking wild to read the article. Oracle got pissy because regulations said you can't just shove datacenter electricity costs on people.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 48 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Jesus. This puts workers at, what, 150-200k laid off this year? Awful.

But I do like that part about mandatory power grid guarantees. If we lived in a reasonable country that would be a federal regulation.

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[–] green_goglin@thelemmy.club 27 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Ellison: job ~~creator~~ destroyer.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

People shouldn’t be working for super villains.

People stand around wondering why the fuck these companies are able to do what they do and these billionaires the same. WELL BECAUSE YOU WORK FOR THEM CHAD. IT’S LITERALLY YOUR FAULT!

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

In a shitty job market, a job for the supervillain is better than starving and being homeless.

This rhetoric comes from a place of privilege.

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[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 35 points 5 days ago (3 children)

This shit is literally ruining the industry for developers/engineers.

At least most of the ones I know and work with.

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[–] plyth@feddit.org 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Buying Time Warner seems poisoned for digital companies, or their owners.

[–] Goldstafford@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 days ago

Good. Let em burn

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago

You say that like it wasn't the goal

[–] arc99@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I really want one or more of these AI companies to fail hard. I think their only strategy is literally to burn through billions hoping it'll be another company that goes to the wall first and they'll somehow reap the rewards by hanging on longer.

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[–] NullPointerException@lemmy.ca 28 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Last week we received the CPU (Critical Patch Update) for Oracle products, which is a list of strongly recommended patches. They issue 4 per year (end of January, April, July and October). ALL patches were late.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I wonder if it's related at all to this ongoing trend ( How Money Works on YouTube). Tech Bros got sore about the post-epidemic culture at their companies: People wanted to work from home, and knew that their talent was important so they got bold asking for pay raises and benefits.

And the tech bros took this personally. So first came the RTO mandates (which got rid of some techs, specifically the best and brightest) and then came later layoffs, some of which were blamed on AI automation.

AI automation was never actually that much further along.

Anyway, they laid off too many people, to the point that the remaining workforce didn't know how to run the business and the tech. So they had to hire back some of the greybeards, and are still replacing lost positions with rookies fresh out of college.

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[–] tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"The global race for dominance in artificial intelligence is turning into one of the most expensive and turbulent corporate competitions in history.

Tech giants Amazon, Microsoft, Alphabet, and Meta are expected to spend about $600 billion on AI infrastructure during 2026."

...

GODDAMMIT. I just realized they're speedrunning the creation of AM.

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