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[–] ironpangolin29@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago

"I know what I got" for a 2006 model is actually valid when dealerships track your car to the second in earth coordinates and can disable your a/c unless you subscribe to the feature nowadays.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The US used vehicle market is a fucked up clown show. In the EU, the prices are more realistic, especially with the smaller motors. The reason, the piss poor US income distribution and astronomical new car prices combined to create this mess.

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Programs like cash for clunkers also helped end cheap wheels for a whole generation. Lots of good motors were locked up intentionally :c

[–] Entropy_Pyre@lemmy.ca 167 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I’m starting to look at those old cars just to not have built-in trackers on my vehicle.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 4 days ago (10 children)

I won't drive anything I can't fix. That seems to be old vehicles only.

[–] Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (9 children)

On one hand, I wanna do right by the environment, own an EV, do my part.

On the other hand, corporations are never going to do their part, the Earth is probably doomed and I have to get by to get by.

So... yeah, I'm probably buying another 6-9th gen Civic or Accord and sending it until it dissolves into the pavement.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Own an EV to save money. People buying vehicles seem to assume gas is free.

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[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Buying old means not purchasing net new products. It's not fully sustainable, but it maintains the status quo and doesn't contribute to more waste. Keeping something old alive and in good working condition is a lower carbon footprint than buying a new EV or Hybrid.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 14 points 4 days ago

Depends on the miles. An EV undertakes a new gas car after 20k miles.

There is a point where a new EV, with mined lithium and all, will be more environmentally friendly than a used car that didn't need to be built but burns gas for every mile.

If you live in a sunny area (pv) or a dense hydro area, that point is quite quickly reached.

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[–] BurgerBaron@quokk.au 19 points 4 days ago (5 children)

The engine in my 1994 K1500 is fucked but I'll engine swap before I buy a spyware truck.

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[–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 68 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

In like 2018 I bought a 2014 Honda Accord Sport for $6500. 6 speed manual, fun car to drive. It had like 50k miles on it which is essentially nothing for a Honda. Carfax was clean etc. Then I had 2 kids and it was time for the Minivan. I traded in the Accord at the dealership (which I never do, but didn't have time to do a private sale). They gave me something like $9500 for it. This was in the beginning of 2025. I drove the Accord for 7 years and made $3000 somehow. And I'm sure the dealership sold it for like $12000.

Shits crazy.

[–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Was it pre-spyware? I'll pay extra for pre-spyware vehicles. I work in IT, so I value my privacy.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Trading in is the biggest theft. Always better off selling on your own, by thousands.

[–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Agreed, but I just had a second kid (she was about 2 months old). I also live in an apartment building with street parking. Between those things and work and life in general, holding on to a car and figuring out a private sale just wasnt in the books. It's not what I wanted to do, but it's what I had to do. It still worked out.

[–] grayclouds@lemmy.world 45 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Loosely related: if your relatives ever give you anything to sell on Facebook Marketplace or something, they will insist on some sort of insane price which will not move. You lower the price dramatically and it finally sells after weeks and weeks of just sitting there. Knowing that your boomer relative will be angry that it sold for $25 rather than 40 bajillion dollars, you lie to them and say you sold it for $45. They bitch, shit themselves, scream and cry, give you a hard time all throughout Sunday dinner and then claim they're going to sell their own stuff from now on. They never sell anything, or even attempt to do so. The end.

[–] derfunkatron@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Tangentially related: Some times your relatives don’t even have to still be in possession of the item any longer to inflate the price and get offended. My mom goes on and on about how much some LP she had when she was 15 would be worth if grandma hadn’t of let it mold in the garage. I looked the album up and if she had a first pressing in mint condition it would be worth a bajillion dollars, but she most certainly played the shit out of a beat up copy of a 14th pressing that isn’t worth shit. Likewise, eBay fucks with their sense of worth, too. My parents will mention something they have being worth a lot of money and I’ll ask how they know only to be hit with “we saw that someone had one of these that went for several thousand.” And of course, looking deeper into unravels the entire plot of why that very not really rare thing sold for an unusually high price 10 years ago during a minor surge in popularity of that thing due to a new media reboot.

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[–] TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (7 children)

They die and now all that stuff is your responsibility anyway

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[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I avoid this problem by not using Facebook

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[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Oh no, not the end. At the end, you have a week to dispose of what can be charitably described as a hoard of useless boomer nonsense.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Behold the inevitable future of funko pops.

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[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Guy not kidding. They asking 40k for cars made in the 1980s. Hell even 1990 models. Fucking crazy.

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 81 points 4 days ago (12 children)

Yeah, the new car market has made overpriced shitters look good

[–] Tippy@sh.itjust.works 40 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Just checked out a trade in 2026 model at a dealership. Had 14k miles already in 8 months and had a damaged head unit display (2k for replacement). Told the dealership they were gonna struggle to sell it, especially given that there's an actual branded dealership selling these all day long a mile away with a quarter of the miles and no damage. It's been sitting on their lot 2 months already with barely any online hits.

GM had a hissy fit that I suggested 2k less than their price, OTD, for me to drive it off the lot.

I suspect I'll be getting a call back in a few weeks when their quotas are low and they realize they aren't selling gold-plated Ferraris.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 38 points 4 days ago (6 children)

You should offer them something even lower when they do

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[–] Curiousfur@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Now this is a 20R Toyota I'd do borderline illegal things to own. This would be worth spending some money on. I'd probably swap in a 22R, or even EV swap it

[–] weimaraner_of_doom@piefed.social 42 points 4 days ago (34 children)
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 44 points 4 days ago (2 children)

so like brand new if it's a Toyota

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[–] whereitsat@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago

old man anecdote: my first car was a toyota celica, 10 years old, this was back in 99'. it cost $500, bought in the classified ads, and the deal was sealed with a firm handshake and a passing of legal tender in unwashed hands.

that same car nowadays would run me 8k.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 9 points 3 days ago

Where is the meme? All that is here is the waking world.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 23 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I’m never selling my manual Honda Fit.

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[–] lp0_on_fire@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (4 children)

The 2012 used car market was pretty fucked. Tons of old stock had been taking off the market in 09/10 by Cash for Clunkers.

[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Let's not pretend that a lot of good cars met an early end in C4C. People were hauling in their broken garbage to cash in. Nobody was bringing in some pristine example of anything good. A whole lot of raggedy minivans, crappy econoboxes and rusty trucks got sand in their engines. If they were worth anything, the scrapyard could have plopped a new motor in them and resold them.

C4C cleaned out the bottom of the barrel shit. Unless you were dying for some fucked up shitheap of a car, nothing of value was lost. If someone was dumb enough to roll in with something useful, you know damn well that the dealer would have given them the same money for it and just resold it. Yeah, you weren't supposed to do that, and politicians aren't supposed to fuck children either.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

That was also when the CAFE standards changed and suddenly small trucks became effectively illegal since fuel economy standards started being based on vehicle footprint.

It's why trucks started growing in size so much. The manufacturers figured out it was easier to make cars bigger than to make them more effecient.

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