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[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"WhatsApp doesn't collect your data!"

(because everything else they own does)

[–] Stomata@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Who you contact, when, how, from where is bing collected

[–] racoon@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago

WhatsApp doesn’t collect your data, because it’s an app. Zuckerberg does it

[–] Goldmaster@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So the whole security and privacy claims are purely marketing.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 19 points 1 week ago

Yes, but so are the ads!

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 1 week ago

What? The communications app owned by Facebook is using data from other Facebook owned platforms to target ads? Who could have ever seen this coming!

[–] arch@feddit.nl 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s unfortunately hard to convert people from WhatsApp to other software, because contacts might care to move but the group will not…

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I've had 2 or more messenging apps for about a decade now because of this.

[–] SW42@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I wonder from where they get the data if I don’t have Facebook or Instagram. WhatsApp is a shitty app that I begrudgingly use because of the parents groups and some relatives that I didn’t manage to make switch to signal.

[–] EveningPancakes@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Facebook absolutely builds ghost profiles for people who don't have a Facebook profile. You see all of those "Like" buttons on non-Facebook websites? Those are cookies that are essentially tracking you. They may not have your first/last name or other personal data as a regular profile, but they can build a pretty damn good composite of you. Source - I work in the ad industry

[–] SW42@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah I thought it would be something like that… feels shady af

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

WhatsApp links you to a social circle and Meta has all of the information of said social circle.

I don't need to know you like soccer if I know 10 people who have a soccer team and you're on all of their contact lists.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Time to switch to a different client.

Check out Signal; it works very well.

[–] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And people will still use it.

[–] AmanitaCaesarea@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We lemmings are cool enough to do that. The struggle is convincing everyone else🥲

[–] Stomata@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Saddest truth

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The next time you wonder, "wow. How can they provide this amazing service for free?" always remember: YOU are the product.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Amazing? Whatscrap? I think there are way better services out there for free as this Zuckerbot trash.

[–] racoon@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

That’s inane and misleading. FOSS is free and amazing. You are not the product.

Mosern cars are filthy. They cost a shitload a money and you’re the product anyway.

“If it’s a service provided by a company whose business model involves selling personalised apps, you are probably the product

[–] rollerbang@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

What happened to them not being allowed to bridge data? Or is this not the case in EU?

[–] lemming@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is there, by any chance, an alternative client?

[–] monovergent@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

There's the Whatsapp web client on F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/io.kuenzler.whatsappwebtogo/

But it still requires the official mobile app for the initial login. When I used it, logging in once seemed to be good for a few months, as long you open it from time to time. There's also a Whatsapp clone that seems to support login, but I haven't tried it and it hasn't seen updates in a couple years: https://github.com/KhubaibKhan4/Whatsify-Android

[–] lemming@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Thanks. It seems to be just whatsapp web in an app form, so I could probaby just go to my browser. But that's still an interesting idea that never ocurred to me on phone.

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Haaaa noyb… never a dull moment with them.

[–] AmanitaCaesarea@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago

Signal, Telegram, SimpleX.

Spin the wheel ladies and gentlemen!

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

thats the push i need to disable whatsapp notifications.

if only the literal state, and corporations didnt fucking force me to use it.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Privacy is never single player, so we must get good at spreading our ideas to those around us.

[–] monovergent@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Same here, not yet at the point where I can convince all my colleagues to switch over. Why disable notifications in particular?

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

so i dont get annoyed by ads, while still being able to use it when i need to.

whatsapp has become ingrained in my country's culture. it would take a lot of scrubbing.

[–] monovergent@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I see. I'm notorious among colleagues for going the extra mile and putting Whatsapp on a separate phone, which I only check on a routine. Hoping that there's a category of notifications can be disabled for ads, but no big loss if the notifications should be shut off altogether.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

it seems they are adding them to the stories functionality, which won't impact my use of it

but yeah, i'm thinking i can be the guy who notoriously only responds quickly to not-whatsapp messages.

[–] notarobot@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Tbh. This took waaay longer than i expected. They bought it con 2014. I didn't even know a company was capable of holding its enshitification tendencies that long

[–] DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

you can still hide your messages with gpg the green in the logo may be glowing brighter then ever and if you cant move from it atleast use gpg

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Normies got nothing to hide and they dont mind ads.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So, stop saying privacy. Say control, scam and abuse.

[–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Normies got nothing to say and have no mind.