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Dems don't need to go low. They need to stop chasing conservative voters.
The reason they are so timid on everything is because the consultant class has convinced them that if they are just a bit more right wing, they'll win the next election.
If Dems fired the consultants and chased the working class, they'd win big time. People hate the Dems because they are corporate captured.
Dems don’t need to go low.
Yeah, they just need to stop taking the high road. The regular road where people are called out held accountable for being terrible is fine, no need to go low.
Good ol America where your options are corporate captured, or corporate captured but with slurs and hate speech.
We get to choose between Coke and Pepsi, when what we really need is a nice clean glass of water.
They wouldn’t if we voted for progressives in the primaries. The 15% that shows up for congressional primaries are almost exclusively retirees. They always pick the most conservative Democrat. We should be voting twice every two years, not once every four, for national elections alone.
They wouldn’t if we voted for progressives in the primaries.
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It’s either that or many dems are ok with sitting back and acting helpless while they take their lobbying bribes and invest in the markets they regulate. Why change a system that personally benefits them so much?
It’s worse than that. They’re all insider trading stocks on all sorts of industries that they directly regulate and have every incentive to weaken, corrode, rip-off, and kill you including weapons manufacturers and defense contractors. Both parties are literally financing and directly benefiting from our rapid decline in the best case and complete obliteration in the worst.
So... We need to start calling Trump supporters slurs?
Jokes on you, I've been calling them retarded for years.
The Democrats are the lesser of the two evils. They are more subtle about not really helping the lower-class and fixing the insane amount of poverty in the USA.
Dems watch too much movies where the good guys keep letting the bad guy live.
Why do you think the rich love making movies with that trope so much. Or the ones where revolutionaries always end up just as bad as the oppressor they overthrew.
revolutionaries always end up just as bad as the oppressor they overthrew
To be fair, this happens a lot. Not "always" but too often enough.
Even the American Revolution. So yay, overthrew "British Tyranny". So you're gonna free the slaves, right? Right? "Freedom" remember? (Well y'all know the rest of the history)
Edit: Cherry on top, the UK now has a better healthcare system than the US 🤣
People assume the Democratic party don't know what they are doing. They know precisely what they are doing by feigning they don't know what they are doing.
The oligarchs really have both parties, and the country in its entirety as a result, by the balls. That is why it is crucial to realise to also protest against oligarchy alongside "No Kings" protest. Trump is only the front and fall guy, it is the oligarchs who are truly in power.
The oligarchs really have both parties,
I made this meme a while ago:
I am increasingly worried that the Democrat/Republican divide, or the US democracy in general, is mostly a "divide and conquer" scheme. It makes people believe they can choose their country's path, but actually, both parties agree on essential questions of economics, such as that there are practically no taxes on the rich, that there's weak social safety nets, and such.
The differences between the parties are only in the culture, or as i say, in the sexuality, which should be a private issue overall, and it makes for an excellent distraction from economic issues.
The only thing that politics actually should care about is the socio-economic situation, i.e. how much resources do people have to live.
The differences we should be focusing on are between the owners and the owned. The left/right bullshit is just to keep the plebs infighting.
No War but Class War
No Gods No Masters
Why would they grow a spine? The people funding them are the same as those funding the people who are fine with this happening.
they don't want to, cause they are just controlled opposition
Low isn't required, but not being a giant pussy is, and, by extension, knowing the difference.
"Listen, we're doing fine. We have two clear paths to victory and they involve completely ignoring progressives. I mean yeah, sure, we could win big time with them but that's not happening, we're not letting that happen, stop asking for ice cream we're going to eat rocks and you're going to like it. Our two paths to victory are 1: becoming more conservative to get conservative voters or 2: a giant meteor breaks up in the atmosphere and large chunks hit major Republican strongholds. Those are the two realistic paths we're following. WE'RE GOING TO IGNORE PROGRESSIVES, STOP ASKING!"
“We need the conservatives to keep the conservatives in check!”
This country needs political literacy and situational understanding, there aren’t two parties.
It's hard to stand for any principles when you're bought and paid for by the very people who are currently riding their insanity bus with trump.
It's because they don't want to stop insider trading and taking these bribes they are even taking these political assassinations seriously
Especially with this guy getting a couple of 2nd degree charges. And Luigi being labeled a terrorist. Shits fucked yo.
Wait what, seriously? Killing a CEO is terrorism, but two politicians is just "normal" murder? That's absolutely fucked.
Don’t have to go low to tell the fucking truth and call it as it is. They just need to stop pandering and open their fucking mouths.
I don't know what "going low" means, but if we discard our morals and dehumanize our opponents to get into power, that's still a fascist regime in power.
I do agree that we need candidates that will wield political power to favor the working class and reduce marginalization. Depending on where you are check out Working Families Party or Sunrise Movement.
I disagree with Ironsides overall callout, but there is room for us to get a little more rowdy.
The democrats are trying hard to appeal to the republican base and give them things they want, to the detriment of their own base. They're trying to play both sides. We need to be shouting, calling out all this stupid shit and if media won't give us attention, they need to take to platforms that will help spread the word. We need clear communication and a concise, reasonably progressive agenda broadcast to the people, we need to call out Faux news on their bullshit and try to shoot straight to the people.
The democrats don’t mind offending people. Like minorities like Trans or Disabled people. They only walk on eggshells around conservatives for some reason.
One party acts like it cares about people and the other party doesn't care about even trying, but they both work for the same people.
As much as i am applied by the behavior and ideas of the Republican GOP.. I am disappointed by the lack of any real effort to stop them from the Democrats
they seem to be afraid of offending them
The Democrats are many many years overdue for a spine. But I still (perhaps naievely) want to believe that it's possible to win without going low.
Maybe I'm just crazy and need my tinfoil hat adjusted, but a race to the bottom still fucks us all over.
Holding people accountable for their actions isn't "going low". Holding people accountable for the knock on effects of their actions isn't "going low". Holding people accountable for their own previous statements isn't "going low". Callong out blatant lies and misdirection isn't "going low". Actually enforcing laws equally against people privileged financially and/or politically isn't "going low". Calling out blatant corruption isn't "going low".
We don't need the Democrats to start pushing candidates that are only following their own interests while wheeling out whatever their base wants to hear. We don't need Democrats cutting backroom deals with businesses that screw over their constituents. We don't need more toxic waste and diarrehia, just with blue food coloring.
I refuse to believe people actually want "Trump but saying leftist shit to appease people".
it's too late for any of this. fascists will continue to do whatever tf they want and face zero consequences, while everyone else continues to peacefully protest and accomplish nothing.
if anything actually changes in the next year, i'll be the first to come back and say i was wrong.
but we've been on this path for going on 10 years. nothing's going to change
Yeah no if the Democrats start peddling the same kind of bullshit that the Republicans do, I'm not voting for them either. That also goes for candidates who are just miserable fucking assholes. I don't want them to win over Republican voters, I want them to inspire the people who are sick of the lack of any real progressive views.
Shame used to work; it doesn't anymore. (Soap box.)
Voting used to work; it doesn't anymore. (Ballot box.)
The courts used to work; they don't anymore. (Jury box.)
You know what's next.
"Just one more peaceful protest bro. I swear bro"
Insert that one guy who insists on a 3.5% of the population peaceful protest