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A new poll suggests that Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein is drawing more voters from former President Donald Trump than from Vice President Kamala Harris.

According to a Noble Predictive Insights survey released last week, Harris holds a narrow lead over Trump in a hypothetical three-way race. With Stein on the ballot, Harris' lead expands, pointing to a potential spoiler effect similar to what many Democrats blamed Stein for doing to Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election.

For Trump, the emergence of Stein as a potential spoiler may be a critical factor in battleground states, where even a small shift in votes could determine the outcome. For Harris, Stein's candidacy could paradoxically provide an unexpected advantage, drawing votes from Trump and narrowing his pathway to victory.

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[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Libs will still blame leftists like blue maga wants them to.

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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Democrats will still blame Stein if they lose, and even though their explicit strategy is to pick off disaffected Republicans, they'll never blame Chase Oliver. It's just like in 2016, when Hillary used the exact same strategy, and they blamed Stein, even though Gary Johnson took home a much higher percentage of the vote in most swing states. They don't care about spoiler candidates; they just want to punch left, especially when they need a scapegoat for a loss.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What's wild to me is that they actually put out attack ads targeting the Green party, which tells me they're believing their own propaganda.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Because democrats are deathly afraid of any mildly progressive party getting funding and being on the ballot nationwide, because then their entire blackmail scheme falls apart. You can't go "you fucking better vote for us, or else" anymore.

The democratic party has been suing to take PSL and the Greens off ballots in multiple states (which also serves to cut into their budget, which is almost entirely small contributions). That's the party trying to save democracy apparently.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

This. As long as they have a base big and dumb enough to buy any and every excuse to go further right (and blame progressives for it), they'll keep doing it.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Her word salads and accents are legendary. Could they have not picked someone else?

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

what's better for the establishment than a candidate that functions as an empty suit?

[–] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I mean, you are right. She is a puppet. Could not risk losing all the big money Biden donators had already shelled. They want their cake too. Hence no Primary.

Watched her on a number of instances, it is all woke rhetoric and 'Vote for me, I am not Trump" messafing. Over and over.

Previous, better Candidates actually stood for something on their own. Rather than not much at all or just reminding you, constantly, of who they were not. Obama and Sanders could actually stand in a room and engage with it and with at least what sounded like their own opinions and rational ideas.

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