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This post is "FYI only" for blahaj lemmy members. It is not a debate, and is not intended for non blahaj lemmy users to weigh in and offer opinions.

I recently received reports of a feddit.uk user espousing transphobia. Specifically, this was a feddit.uk user refusing to use the word cis, repeating the "adult human female" dog whistle, and claiming that trans women are not women. I approached a member of the feddit.uk admin team and raised my concerns and sought clarification of their stance on posts like this, where the transphobia is mostly dogwhistles, and "civil disagreement" on the validity of trans folk.

I was told by the feddit.uk admin that their preferred response is this kind of transphobia is to "sort it out through discussion and voting". However, the comments in question are currently more upvoted than downvoted, and little "sorting out" has occurred. The posts remain in place.

At this point, the admin stopped responding to my messages despite being active elsewhere on lemmy. When it became clear they were ignoring my messages and had no intention of removing the posts in question, I made the decision to defederate the instance.

I know some folk agree with the feddit.uk admins approach of pushback through discussion and voting, but this instance is not designed to be that kind of space. Blahaj lemmy is meant to be a place where we can avoid the rampant transphobia universally visible on nearly every other social media platform, and where we can exist without needing to debate our right to do so.

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[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Obviously I'm not on blahaj, but I think the decision is pretty on point for the goals of blahaj.

It also makes me disappointed in feddit.uk. "Leave it to discussion/votes" is bullshit and just support for the behavior.

Edit: The admin responded elsewhere with "we want to make sure we comply with the law".

My comment remains unchanged. Allowing this is support. Fuck your bullshit law. You're explicitly supporting this bullshit by your inaction.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Right? Imagine if you said that about the rights for like black women or something? Like, come ON. It's 2025, we KNOW these behaviors are bigoted, rules are way too chill with letting shit like that fly, and is part of the reason it's so prolific now - it's not being treated like the hate speech that it is, and people in power in certain places are like "no I'm not sure we need to discuss it again". It's just gross and horrible and makes me feel so fucking helpless sometimes when a space is dominated with shitties like that.

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[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

You kick ass Ada. Thanks for all you do.

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 1 points 1 month ago

What response from an instance admin on this situation would have been expected/acceptable?

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What's "adult human female" referring to? Asking so I can keep an eye out for this in the future

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's a transphobic dog whistle. Popularised by UK transphobes. The implication is that trans women aren't women, and when you see it used, that's what they're really saying.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

Thanks Ada. It's exhausting (emotionally and spiritually) to try to keep up with the ways in which people express their hate for us, but it's certainly essential for keeping ourselves safe, so I'm thankful to have learned something new.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Adult human female is a dog whistle used by TERFs (and transphobes more broadly) to make it clear that they are specifically excluding trans women from the definition of womanhood; that is, it’s shorthand for saying that ‘adult human females’ are the only category of person that can be called a woman.

[–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

As a Brit myself, it saddens me how much hate is leeching from my country - especially towards minorities.

Thank you to the mods for making this community open so that people like me can lurk and learn to be better, while simultaneously protecting the people who depend on and need this safe space. Defederating was the right choice.

I won’t pretend I’m well versed in trans issues and struggles - I’m a cishet guy with no real skin in the game but I want to be an ally.

If anyone has good resources for someone like me to read so I can be better armed to refute and educate others who are being hateful, please let me know. The surge in hate after the recent Supreme Court ruling here in the UK has made it painfully clear being passive on the sidelines isn’t acceptable.

Huge apologies in advance if I’ve phrased anything hurtfully. I just want to learn.

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's popular transphobic/conservative rhetoric. That's it. It's vague and a dog whistle.

A dog whistle is a euphemism for saying one thing that only your base clearly hears, like a literal dog whistle and how only dogs hear it because human hearing is like 20hz-20,000hz, and dogs go up to like 70,000 or 100,000hz or something.

It's just a super shitty behavior in general, akin to passive aggression, in that it's purely destructive with no constructive recourse, thus Ada's swift decision and response (thanks Ada).

[–] anzo@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

Terf island strikes again!

[–] VasovagalSyncope@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Based for defederating from feddit

Cringe for another decision that effects all blahaj users without their consent without posting any proof.

[–] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Registration on this instance is clear enough about what this instance is about, and this move is perfectly in line with it. The post isn't even for you.

[–] mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

Notice the 4chan based/cringe trope and they're from .world 🎣

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

Scrolling through this thread, I don't see any blahajis with less than full approval. If there are, they are more than welcome to show their disapproval by moving to a different instance.

I appreciate this sort of moderation. Imagine if somehow it was voted down: then people who don't want to be federated with feddit.uk would have no options. "Posting proof" may have some benefit, but few of us want to tread through more transphobia, so that sounds like a net negative to me.

This is precisely how things should work. Way to go, Ada!

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's pretty funny watching tourists who aren't using blahaj (or even feddit.uk) crying out that this doesn't fit their ideals. This instance is clear about its purpose, and this moderation is perfectly in line with that goal. There's no need for hypotheticals, because like you said, this was received almost-or-fully unanimously.

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[–] yuri@pawb.social 1 points 1 month ago

ada continues to be the realest MVP

[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I'm not a blåhaj user, but I really hope the feddit.uk mindset on this doesn't spread to other instances.

Why do divisive people have to care so much about letting people do what they want if it doesn't affect them? What someone wants to do with their body does NOT affect you, but your open derogatory statements about them DOES affect them!

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[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Bubble, echo chamber, besieged fortress syndrome... Combined they make what Ada envisions the blahaj.zone to be.

I mean what the fuck, just ban the person you don't like.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago (4 children)
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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

hard mode: uk stop being transphobic for two seconds.

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

Blahaj user and former Brit here ... well done Ada for consistency and transparency regarding this.

The whole "let it play out" attitude really says it all, it shows cowardice and a lack of leadership ... kind of like the current prime minister.

[–] Kimiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

These are tough calls to make. On the one hand I applaud the step taken to protect the community hosted by this instance, on the other I also find that simply cuting ties and conversation only furthers the divide.

Sure we should not have to defend the validity of our existence, and also realise that most hate leaves little place for heathy discussions. But in avoiding their echo chambers I find we quiet ours too, we renounce our visibility for our comfort and theirs.

I guess I wish there were other ways to warn users about potentially triggering instances rather than outright defederating, but I do understand your main motives.

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