The people that did the dirty work for the people that made (or kept really) the country shit want to be proud (again?). Lots to unpack there. Being proud of a country, especially the US, is weird to begin with.

[–] darvocet@infosec.pub 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

One can be proud of the country they live in just like they can be disappointed in it.

[–] newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lol one should be proud of one's own achievements. Nothing achieved by being lucky (or unlucky) enough to be born in a certain part of the world. Losers who have nothing to show for take pride in something as arbitrary as a nation

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I get the impression that the pride and patriotism we see from so many Americans is largely an American thing. Most places, patriotism is entwined with right wing nationalism. I'm not an American, and I certainly wouldn't say I'm proud on my country. I don't own any of it or have much say in how it's run, it's just the place where I live - better than some places, worse than others.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago

No one should be proud of the US.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Good luck with that.

I'm happy for Finland. They won civilization again this year. The world happiness index. The scientific measure of the happiness of the citizens of a society.

Which should be the entire point.

Of civilization and society I mean. Of everything we toil for. Maximize human happiness for the most humans possible. Full stop.

We choose to make ourselves miserable subsisting under avarice diseased sociopaths who themselves can never be satiated or therefore happy. And we call what we toil for... freedom? What a con-job.

Why take pride in not only losing civilization, but playing the wrong fucking sport altogether? It's embarrassing to be associated with. I'm with stupid as in my nation state.

[–] seeigel@feddit.org -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Do Finnish people know what happiness is, though?

It could be like death and stupidity and they can't tell.

[–] khapyman@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

It's not like Finland is a perfect country. It's just least shit one.

[–] weker01@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

My experience in Finland says: yes, they know happiness

[–] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Amen

[–] newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago

Treating this sentiment as religious is the right impulse. It's purely vibes based and should never be grounds for policy